Re: {UNC Badminton Club} Re: Badminton NC OPOENS today

From: Wahyudi G.
Sent on: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 7:14 PM
Hy,

I just want to compare apple to apple.   You start comparing the fee from one facility to another. That made me curious on what is actually the total cost on different situation at Bond Park without saying which one is more expensive or better than another.

Just FYI. There is 15 days pass for Jr for $15 for resident. Non-resident is double that.

I support the new facility and wish that it is successful in their effort.  My point is that every facility have its own advantage and disadvantage and I don't think it is wise to point one is better than another without seeing the whole picture. It is all relative.

-WG

On Jun 4, 2014, at 5:32 PM, "'Hy' via UNC Badminton Club" <[address removed]> wrote:

Yudi,

Bond Park effectively and cleverly charges kids even higher than adults.  Kids can only buy 5 passes at a time for $10 (Cary residents) or $20 (non Cary residents), or equivalently $50 or $100 respectively for 25 passes.

For Cary kid: (50-44)/44*100% higher than adults = 13.6% higher ==> picking your middle range: $274*1.136=$311 per kid based on your average calculation.


For non Cary kid: [masked])/82*100% higher than adults = 22% higher ==> picking your middle range: $274*1.22=$334 per kid based on your average calculation.

These numbers are city subsidized numbers, and hence, our freedom to play any time available is limited.

Are you willing to pay these numbers along with your own fees while you can get them for free at the new facility AND free coaching from an Olympic coach and playing on Olympic rated Badminton courts and consistent schedule?  I think these are reasonable assumption.  It gets really ugly and way too expensive if you have 2 or 3 kids.

No matter how you look at it, I think we should support the new facility and grow Badminton here.

Again, these are all my own opinions and calculations.  I just think that this is a boost for Badminton and we all should support the cause.

Cheers,
Hy



 


"Choices, not circumstances, determine your success." Anonymous.

From: Paul Knechtel <[address removed]>
To: Wahyudi Gunawan <[address removed]>; "[address removed]" <[address removed]>
Cc: badminton_rtp_nc <[address removed]>; "[address removed]" <[address removed]>; "[address removed]" <[address removed]>; "[address removed]" <[address removed]>; Bond Park Badminton <[address removed]>; UNC Badminton <[address removed]>; Netsports Group <[address removed]>; Heather Burns <[address removed]>; Ravi Rao <[address removed]>; Yuka Namba <[address removed]>; Takashi Namba <[address removed]>; Jim Greenless <[address removed]>; Pratap Joshi <[address removed]>; Mayu Namba <[address removed]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 4,[masked]:43 PM
Subject: Re: {UNC Badminton Club} Re: Badminton NC OPOENS today


My personal goal is that ALL badminton clubs within 10000 miles of NC ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL. If  ALL clubs succeed BADMINTON WINS!

Onwards.

Paul K

From: Wahyudi Gunawan <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Cc: Paul Knechtel <[address removed]>; badminton_rtp_nc <[address removed]>; "[address removed]" <[address removed]>; "[address removed]" <[address removed]>; "[address removed]" <[address removed]>; Bond Park Badminton <[address removed]>; UNC Badminton <[address removed]>; Netsports Group <[address removed]>; Heather Burns <[address removed]>; Ravi Rao <[address removed]>; Yuka Namba <[address removed]>; Takashi Namba <[address removed]>; Jim Greenless <[address removed]>; Pratap Joshi <[address removed]>; Mayu Namba <[address removed]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 4,[masked]:34 PM
Subject: Re: {UNC Badminton Club} Re: Badminton NC OPOENS today

Just want to provide a correction on Bond Park. I dunno much about Netsport as I don’t play there. 

The calculation made me curious on how much does it cost at BP (the facility I played). The maximum number of time we can play at BP is roughly around 3 - 4 times a week regardless if it is volleyball or basketball season

In terms annual calculation, assuming you buy 25 days passes for $44 (for resident) or $82 (for non-resident)

For Resident (1 adult)
If you play 2 times a week then it will cost $183.04/per person/per year
If you play 3 times a week then it will cost $274.56/per person/per year
If you play 4 times a week then it will cost $366.08/per person/per year

For Non-Resident
If you play 2 times a week then it will cost $341.12/per person/per year
If you play 3 times a week then it will cost $511.68/per person/per year
If you play 4 times a week then it will cost $682.24/per person/per year

U17 have reduced rate at BP.

-WG



On Jun 4, 2014, at 1:31 PM, 'Hy' via UNC Badminton Club <[address removed]> wrote:


All,

In case anyone has any doubt about the very reasonable fees at the new dedicated Badminton facility, you can compare what the new facility offers and what I come up here.  No matter how you look at it, the NF fees are very reasonable and fair, considering all the benefits that come with it in terms of schedule, family time, and training:

#1 Netsports: (much less or none during Basketball or Volleyball seasons)
   Mon-Fri: 6-9AM
   Sat/Sun: No play time.  When most of us and our kids/family can play and spend time together
   $25/month/player ==> $300/year/player
   Each kid must pay membership too.  You do the math for your family's members and the cost will shoot up.
   No weekly FREE training by an Olympic coach (~$60/week ==> ~$3000/year)

#2 Bond Park: (much less or none during Basketball or Volleyball seasons)
    Tue, Fri: 6-9:30PM?
    Sat: 1:30-5PM
    Sun: 9-11AM
    Best scenario cost:
              Cary Resident: 25 passes/$44/player=6.5weeks ==> $286/year/player
              Non-Cary Resident: 25 passes/$86=6.5 weeks ==> $559/year/player
    Each kid pays membership too.  You do the math for your family's members and the cost will shoot up.
    No weekly FREE training by an Olympic coach (~$60/week ==> ~$3000/year)

Even worse, if you have been playing at two facilities or more, you will end up paying much more than what listed here.

There are also many restrictions and closing dates, especially when you and your kids are off due to holidays, at these facilities.

For these reasons and all the benefits of the NF membership, I do not see why you would think that Dennis or Paul would put their restless effort in growing Badminton here for their own profits.  Paul has been retired for some time, and do you think he needs to trade all the stresses from politics in Badminton for some small, or even negative, amount of money to build up such a dedicated facility for the Badminton communities around here?  I completely do not buy it at all.  Now, Dennis, an Olympic coach, moves all his family here to invest in the facility and grow Badminton here.  Do you think he is following the money too?  I completely doubt it.  These guys are visionary leaders who put aside politics for their love of Badminton.  Have you heard them complaining about other leaders or just focus on what they love to do deligently no matter how much misunderstanding they have to bear?  Give yourselves some time to think of these visionary leaders and give them a chance to talk to you; then, you can judge them yourselves.

Ask yourselves if you would be willing to put hundreds of thousand dollars of your own to invest in such dedicated facility to grow Badminton for others to enjoy?  The new facility is at one of the most convenient and centralized location (Brier Creeks) in the RTP region to accommodate as many players as possible; hence, the cost of operating it would not be cheap at all.  They need all the support they can.  We are all in this together for ourselves and our later generations!

I hope you are willing to open your eyes wide and give yourselves a chance to discuss with and join these visionary leaders to seriously grow Badminton here and else where.

Sincerely,
Hy


"Choices, not circumstances, determine your success." Anonymous.

From: Paul Knechtel <[address removed]>
To: badminton_rtp_nc <[address removed]>; "[address removed]" <[address removed]>; "[address removed]" <[address removed]>; "[address removed]" <[address removed]>; "[address removed]" <[address removed]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 4,[masked]:13 PM
Subject: Badminton NC OPOENS today

Opening Day is here 5PM tonight and again at 6AM Thursday

9300 Globe Center Dr Unit 116, Morrisville NC

[masked] to speak to Dennis, the 'grand poobah'



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