Sat Morn Eat n Chat: Is Violence the Only Way to Address World Problems?

http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Violence-Works/140951/  (best to read before attending)

Note: This discussion does NOT encompass President Obama, the right to own guns, Middle East issues, the Congress, or any aspect of liberal vs conservative political theory.  If your interest is to discuss these issues, this particular meetup event is not the forum for it.  

Please un-RSVP if you have previously RSVPed and cannot attend.  Attendance will be taken and repeated non-appearances despite RSVPing will be dealt with by the group organizer Scott Driscoll.

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Between the Arab Spring and its aftermath, governmental changes in Latin America and Africa (child soldiers)  as well as the US's own issues with civil equality for minorities:

a)MLK passivity to demonstrate wrongness of violence knowing violence would often follow

b) the Black Panthers violent element-it wasn't their main purpose as you will read, as well as both the

c) Stonewall (gay rights) and

d) the Haymarket riots (organized labor) --- the answer to some seems to be that yes, violence was and is indeed still necessary. 

The following article comes from an academic publication and makes a good case for the "yes to violence" position.

http://chronicle.com/article/Why-Violence-Works/140951/

What do you think? Is his position an informed one? Are there instances where non-violence has, for the long term been successful?  Is there a way out of this cycle of violence? What are our options? If there are no feasible options, what  will become of us?   Has womens' rights escaped this violence stigma - for both voting and violence against them -- and if so, at what price?  

And how do I get rid of this silly blue type????? There seems to be no control for colored font on this site.  Must I put it into a WORD document and delete it there?

I encourage you to read the above article before attending.

The links below address the movements and events mentioned above:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair  (Haymarket)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots (Stonewall)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_panthers (black panthers)

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/0115/Martin-Luther-King-Jr.-8-peaceful-protests-that-bolstered-civil-rights/Montgomery-bus-boycott-1955-56 (MLK)

http://mith.umd.edu//WomensStudies/ReadingRoom/History/Vote/enduring-significance.html (Women's rights)

Those who have x-tra knowledge of the topic through individual experience, family, friends, and vocation are especially requested to attend. Your insights will no doubt be unique and valuable.

As always there are no rules for this meetup only to respect group members regardless of views.

See you there for good food and stimulating conversation!

We'll start at about 10:45 and end at 12:30.

The conversation may be guided but will not be dictated in any direction pushing any particular viewpoint. This is a place for understanding, for exchanging views, and for learning.



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  • Lori D.

    Great discussion and in depth input from all

    November 10, 2013

  • Lori D.

    Attending solo...see everyone tmrw

    November 8, 2013

  • Steve

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z02J_kPincA

    There are few songs that epitomize the "violence for justice" argument more than this one does. The words are easy to understand. Do you agree with the sentiments?

    October 19, 2013

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