There was a conversation on the New York Internet Society list today
about an upcoming
that invited as follows:
Join Crain's New York Business and Partnership for
New York City for the FUTURE OF NEW YORK CITY CONFERENCE to
take part in a discussion about the agenda for the next mayor.
A board member chimed in that they should consider a note about the
role of the .nyc TLD. I of course on in noting that the opening
speech was about the Competitive Advantage of New York and that .nyc
certainly was an appropriate topic. Another board member said
"what's the competitive advantage of .nyc" to which I put together
It's perhaps not on point with Open-NY, but might be worth
I will be there this evening but not arrive until 8 or so. Save me a
Good point Joly. And with the understanding that this is a new
development with little experience to build upon, allow me to ramble
on a bit about the Competitive Advantage that we might achieve
through a thoughtfully developed .nyc TLD.
1. Imagine .Milano institutes a detailed Internet of Things
protocol, giving a domain name to everything that doesn't move in
the city. This presents efficiencies for city operation and for
those who want to use these place-based objects in new media
developments - apps and the like (e.g., drag in parkinglots.nyc).
And New York didn't have this because it rushed, unthinking, into
the issuance of .nyc domain names.
2. Imagine .Paris assigned domain names to every street in the city
and assigned the respective domain names to entities that would
develop various layers for these properties under contract. So for
example, when someone enters Champs-Elysees they are presented with
a Champs-Elysees.paris page that facilitates access.
3. Imagine .Paris creates a structure that optimizes the
fashion.paris domain name. And that New York City sells fashion.nyc
via an auction to Macy's.
4. Imagine that 20 years down the road we've run out of good domain
names - those that are short, descriptive, and memorable - with the
elderly squatting on these, paying a minimal annual renewal fee for
their good.nyc names. And .Amsterdam has high renewal fees which are
dedicated to facilitating Net education and toward encouraging a
5. Imagine visiting .Istanbul and entering english.Istambul and
finding everything you need.
6. Imagine search.nyc as a collaborative resource that provides
residents and visitors with accurate and timely information about
7. Imagine neighborhood domain names that serve the residents of
their respective neighborhoods, so that Corona.nyc addresses the
civic and family needs of that neighborhood's 55,000 residents
rather than those of the global beer conglomerate.
8. Imagine Voter.nyc as as place where money doesn't matter. Where
candidates for public office present their case for office and the
Netizens vote them up or down.
9. Imagine a regional city unencumbered by a plethora of governance
structures - there are 800 in the 90 mile radius of the Empire State
Building - simplifying and reducing the cost of government. And a
place where where institutional barriers to business are diminished.
10. Finally, the .nyc TLD will prove itself when dog owners get
their fido.dog.nyc along with their dog license. Then New York City
will have made obsolescent the adage “No one knows you’re a dog on
the Internet.” ;)
So Joly, if we're talking about "competitive advantage" here's an
hour's worth of reasons why the conference should think about the
.nyc TLD. Two qualifiers: I've not provided the negatives on most of
the above but will gladly do so those that require it. Also, one can
easily see non-TLD ways to provide most of these resources. But
here's what one can do at a modest cost with a virgin TLD.
It's clearly a "Use it or loose it" situation.
P.S. We worked on a somewhat related document called the Paris
in 2008. "Competitive Advantage" concerns from
various cities hindered its progress over the past several years. I
intend to renew the effort at ICANN 45 in Toronto next month.
On 9/6/2012 2:10 PM, noel hidalgo
Good afternoon everyone,
It is hard to image that we are approaching our fourth
year of organising for a more Open New York! Over the past
few months, there have been quite a few conversations about
the future. How do we sustain our work? How do we make a
lasting impact on future NYC Governments? How do we broaden
the umbrella of open advocates while helping stimulate
economic development and enshrining Open Data as a civil
Answering these questions are not easy… But help is on
To give our group a solid foundation, the organizers have
started to write the "history of Open NY." While mostly
grounded in events, we would love input and feedback. Feel
free to click on this link < http://bit.ly/OpenNY_history
or email me your comments to the document below…
OpenNY Forum provides a space in which members of New
York's many civic-minded communities and institutions
can work together to build a better a more open city and
state. We focus on the intersection of open government
and civic technology. Our group is non-partisan in its
approach, focused instead on common goals and improving
our shared systems and infrastructure.
organized as “Open Government NYC Meetup”, this
community started meeting in March of 2009.
group created: September 15, 2008
Organizers: Noel Hidalgo & Philip Ashlock (Circa
Members: 500 +
URL (Primary site): http://www.meetup.com/OpenNY/
Group (direct, defunct): https://groups.google.com/d/forum/openny
Group (related, quiet): https://groups.google.com/d/forum/open-government-nyc
Timeline of events:
March, Matt Cooperrider starts meetup group and runs
first event called "Mapping the Territory” - and 35
people attend, with local media coverage: http://observer.com/2009/03/at-open-govt-meetup-techies-strategize/
Participation Camp, in the lead up to Personal Democracy
Forum's annual conference, Open NY hosted a two day
unconference focused on new ideas and tools to support
citizen participation in Government. < http://www.streetfilms.org/participation-camp-2009-change-the-rules/ >
and < http://www.ugotrade.com/2009/07/10/participation-camp-nyc-open-government-open-organizations-open-collaboration-open-data-and-apps-for-democracy/ >
Community testimony to Coucilmember Brewer's committee
on a proposed Open Data Law.
Organised three BigApps Dev Camp to seed the NYC.gov's
call for datasets and idealised apps.
BigApps Dev Camp #1 - http://barcamp.org/w/page/401889/BigAppsDevCamp
BigApps Dev Camp #2 - http://www.meetup.com/openny/events/11148336/
BigApps Dev Camp #3 - http://www.meetup.com/NYCBIGAPPS/events/11800190/
Demanded that BigApps campaign/challenge become more
transparent < http://vimeo.com/7479859
CapitolCamp: Collaborated with the New York State Senate
and New York State Chief Information Officer / Office of
Technology to produce CapitalCamp, the first
unconference inside a State Capitol building. < http://www.nysenate.gov/video/2009/jun/15/nys-senate-cio-andrew-hoppin-capitol-camp >
Open NY Summit & Codeathon, a continuation of
Participation Camp where attendants briefed on the
status of projects and tools. YouTube Playlist for this
event: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL11E7C4F68DEFAE4A (7
vids, including Matt’s summary of OpenNY past and
Coordinated with Personal Democracy Forum's evening
Provided testimony to NY City Council on Open Data (June
Video testimony http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE0aldGLC04&feature=list_other&playnext=1&list=SP61B6DD7A96D014E3
Committee Blog http://nycctechcomm.wordpress.com/opengov/june2010hearing/
NY Senate CIO, Andrew Hoppin,
See Click Fix http://seeclickfix.blogspot.com/2010/06/testimony-at-nyc-council-opendata.html
Digital Democracy http://digital-democracy.org/2010/06/21/testifying-to-nyc-council-tech-committee-on-open-data/
Lobbied the organizers of NYC’s BigApps campaign to host
public information sessions around datasets and goals of
the competition. < http://www.meetup.com/NYCBIGAPPS/#past >
Organized a panel sesion for Re:Group, beyond models of
consensus < http://eyebeam.org/events/regroup-beyond-models-of-consensus
>. This was a series of conversations, workshops, and
installations at Eyebeam focusing on authorised and
unauthorised "crowd sourcing".
Partnered with New Work City, an NYC coworking office
space, to be part of New Work University. New Work City
University < http://nwc.co/edu/ >
was a series of monthly classes and workshops focusing
on cutting edge conversations affecting the NYC
technology / start up community.
Introduced NYC's Chief Digital Officer to the technology
Hosted OpenGov Camp, an unconference about tools for
change. < http://opengovnyc.org/ >
Spring, spearheaded the creation of the Transparency
Work Group linking together NYC's civil liberty
organisations and policy technologists to advocate for
the passing of NYC.gov's open data legislation.
ReinventNYC.gov, a municipal hackathon to reimaging
NYC.gov, members of the Open NY community won the best
Through Spring and into winter, Open NY’s organizing
efforts are invested in working and negotiation with
NYC’s Department of Information Technology and
Telecommunications (DoITT) and NY City Council to bring
about the right legal language we want to see in the
City’s Open Data Law.
Focused efforts on private conversations with City
Councilmembers and NYC’s DoITT to further developments
on (then Intro-29a) Local Law 11 and open data efforts
Local Law 11 is passed. This law is heralded as the most
progressive municipal open data law. < http://www.nyc.gov/portal/site/nycgov/menuitem.c0935b9a57bb4ef3daf2f1c701c789a0/index.jsp?pageID=mayor_press_release&catID=1194&doc_name=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyc.gov%2Fhtml%2Fom%2Fhtml%2F2012a%2Fpr081-12.html&cc=unused1978&rc=1194&ndi=1 >
and < http://americancity.org/daily/entry/tktk1 >
NYC Open Data Policy Hack Day < https://nycopendatapolicyhack.eventbrite.com/
>, members of the community preorganized responces
and atteneded with a list of suggestions that were
incorperated into the NYC.gov OpenData Standards < http://nycopendata.pediacities.com/wiki/index.php/Policy_Hack_Topic_Suggestions
Members of the Open NY community organize PDF Applied
>, bringing leading civic “hackers” together with
practitioners in government and NGOs to build tools that
enhance civic life through technology-driven innovation.
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