Re: [betaNYC] Neighbors online trends in NYC?

From: Lothar K.
Sent on: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:43 PM
What New York City community boards need is a platform to build an online presence.  Bronx CB 9 is in the technological stone age and there is no path to take them out of it because they have ZERO funding.   Email is used very sparingly to communicate because it's mostly unknown.  A lot of people in the Bronx are not online and don't intend to get online.

If someone would build an accessible platform you might be able to generate a moderate amount of traffic and some participation.  Facebook could have been such a platform but it is perceived by the target group (middle aged adults and seniors) as something for kids and very few use it. We have a group called "Concerned Citizens of Bronx Community Board 9".  The group has 30000+ members but only a handful of members ever post and its usually unrelated news.

The platform would have to be open, posting could be limited to board members but everything must be publicly accessible to fulfill the requirements of the New York State Open Meeting Law.  


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Mikael Hveem <[address removed]> wrote:
As a follow up on Steve's original word press/drupal for CBs comment, I wanted to add that I also find CBs are very interesting in a similar regard. We are currently working on collecting and making all NYC community board meetings accessible through our platform, along with other local civic forums in the city. Almost done with the framework for the new content, just doing some testing, and should have it up and running by Jan 1st. However, since it's mostly mobile and the backend depends a lot on automation and analytics, we have built it from scratch. 

We want to make things as open as possible though, so suggestions, requests and collaboration welcome. You can check out the website for our platform here http://commune.io.

(Sorry, this comes a little late. I sent this yesterday, but just realized that none of my last list e-mails sent had been posted, as I had changed my sender's address a few weeks back).



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On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Steven Adler <[address removed]> wrote:
Actually, the movement hasn't been that successful in the USA either, Open Data notwithstanding.  Some European examples I am familiar with:

Cologne tried e-participation in[masked], allocating a portion of their discretionary budget to citizen participation.  Only a small minority of citizens participated and those that did had their spending proposals mostly vetoed by the city council.

Bologna used google and facebook to encourage citizens to participate in civil government, but only 300 out of a total population of 500,000 engaged.  Bandwidth limitations, cultural preferences, and the relative paucity of things to participate in made the program unattractive.

The Canton of Geneva has perhaps the most advanced e-participation in Europe, though they are not EU members.  In Geneva, citizens can gather electronic signatures to put legislative initiatives on the ballot that the entire Canton votes on.  

I have some friends who work on e-participation in the EU and am happy to make introductions if that would be helpful.  


Best Regards,

Steve



From: Steven Clift <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Date: 12/18/2013 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [betaNYC] Neighbors online trends in NYC?





Europe is a big place.  :-) There are some successes.

However, with the EU funding far more of this e-participation stuff than any U.S. sources in the gov/ngo space,  I am very interested in what code we can adapt and add on to rather than recreate from scratch.

Steven Clift - [address removed]
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On Dec 18,[masked]:26 AM, "Steven Adler" <[address removed]> wrote:
This is an interesting idea, though e-participation in Europe has been spectacularly unsuccessful.


Best Regards,

Steve Adler

IBM


From: Steven Clift <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Date: 12/17/2013 08:36 AM
Subject: Re: [betaNYC] Neighbors online trends in NYC?






From a general innovative engagement perspective, community boards (or neighborhood associations in Mpls or District Councils in St. Paul) could be a very interesting starting point for creating open source tools for connecting local people to a hybrid of representative decision-making and participatory democracy.

I've always wondered what the Drupal or WordPress template and plugin/module combo would be to make participatory local democracy more accessible.

Also, on webcasting ... the Volis project from Estonia might be worth checking out. I was told it was open source: https://www.volis.ee/gvolis/?lang=en

Cheers,
Steven Clift

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