Re: [betaNYC] Where is the online version of the NYPD Patrol Guide

From: Daniel E.
Sent on: Monday, May 5, 2014 3:25 PM
There's also a version on the PBA website, but you need to be a member of the PBA to gain access--I tried.

Just searching for "NYPD patrol guide"
yields a number of android and ios apps:

Modifying the search so that it's finding material from the last month, gets more interesting,
appreciate the 3rd hit--the one from: muckrock.com:

As for the ownership of this document, I mean the copyright...
Presumably this is sourced from the NYPD.
Presumably this is written by the NYPD, however, that does NOT put it in the PUBLIC DOMAIN and NYC asserts ownership.

Reforming the laws so that all NYC publications conform to the same copyright rules as the Federal Government--oh, now we're talking!!!

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On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Ralph Yozzo <[address removed]> wrote:
Thank you and I agree.


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Chris Whong <[address removed]> wrote:
I don't think something like this is really a fit for a dataset "as data", but its content should definitely be public, searchable, and explorable.  I smell a National Day of Civic Hacking project in the works...

-C


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Ralph Yozzo <[address removed]> wrote:
Here is the larger version of the NYPD Patrol Guide (apparently for 2009) http://ksapublications.info/app/pg/PG212.pdf


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Ralph Yozzo <[address removed]> wrote:
Wow Chris Thanks!!!

I narrowed the search to that particular site and found items such as http://ksapublications.info/app/pg/PG20613.pdf

This seems to be a 2009 Version of the NYPD Patrol Guide.

Should not all this information be in a database and available and updated in NYC open data portal?

And I searched for whois ksapublications.info

Turns out it appears to be a consulting company in Kiamesha Lake, NY

Registrant Email:[address removed]
Admin ID:C[masked]-LRMS
Admin Name:Charles  Fishman
Admin Organization:Spectrum Data Consulting Inc.
Admin Street: 40 Robert Road
Admin City:Kiamesha Lake
Admin State/Province:NY
Admin Postal Code:12751


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Chris Whong <[address removed]> wrote:
NM I see that this is just an update... reminds me of Technical Manuals in the Army with lots of update inserts stapled in the back cover.

-C


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Chris Whong <[address removed]> wrote:


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Ralph Yozzo <[address removed]> wrote:
Where is the online version of the NYPD Patrol Guide?

If it is not available online, Is the NYPD Patrol Guide covered by the NYC open data law?

I see many references to the "NYPD Patrol Guide" but I do not seem to find the actual guide.


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