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Re: Re[2]: [blacktechies] App to avoid black neighborhoods

From: Bklynate
Sent on: Friday, August 8, 2014 8:11 AM
I understand where your're coming from Marie, but for starters you have to understand that that major cause and effect scenario you are talking about depends solely on if people will put such merit and faith into this app. Coupled with the fact that there is a plethora of objective data about areas being good or bad I don't think an app based largely in part on unvetted subjective user experiences will have as much economical/political impact as you're thinking - especially in a city like NY.

"If the creators of this app are so concerned about avoiding Sketchy neighborhoods, then why would the move to New York City?"

That's like saying if your so concerned about avoiding racism/prejudice why live in the south?


"Regarding your comments of racism versus prejudice,  you can be hurt by both like getting shot versus stabbed."

I never said you couldn't be hurt by both - that wasn't the point. The point was being able to distinguish between the two. Yes a bullet wound can hurt you, so can a scratch but you'd hope the instances of each would be treated differently...you wouldn't want a band-aid for a bullet wound nor 50 stitches for a scratch.




On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Marie Edith Patterson <[address removed]> wrote:
If a neighborhood is deemed Sketchy, that will result in a decline in property values.   A decline in property values means less money to fund the public school budgets leading to school overcrowding and school closures.  If you do not see that cause and effect please let me know.  

Police working in Sketchy neighbors, tend to operate without impunity regardless of their conduct.  This results in neighboring being afraid of the crime element and the police.

The word Sketchy evokes a negative connotation, thus eliciting a negative response.  I thought technology was supposed to help people, not help one demographic at the expense of hurting another demographic.

If the creators of this app are so concerned about avoiding Sketchy neighborhoods, then why would the move to New York City?  Could it be that the entrepreneurial opportunities outweigh the effects of living and working in Sketchy urban centers.

There are a plethora of data repositories that will tell what neighborhoods are good and why. 

Regarding your comments of racism versus prejudice,  you can be hurt by both like getting shot versus stabbed.

On Aug 8, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Bklynate <[address removed]> wrote:

For starters, I feel like people NEED to be able to distinguish RACISM from PREJUDICE because they are two different things. Racism is all about using one's position and power or a system that intentionally holds down a particular race, like a cop who uses his badge to bust only black people, while prejudice is just bias against a particular group of people or what have you. I don't think the app itself is racist nor prejudice and I think the overall idea holds merit. The issue is with random people's subjective observations being used as data to define a certain area as "avoidable". I feel like that is just inviting internet trolls with nothing better to do than muck things up. 


On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Marie Edith Patterson <[address removed]> wrote:
Racist is extremely fundable.

On Aug 8, 2014, at 1:38 AM, Diana <[address removed]> wrote:

I agree I can't believe this nonsense got funded!!! Smh

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On Aug 8, 2014, at 1:13 AM, Jonathan <[address removed]> wrote:

To think someone thought this worth venture capital. Maybe one off us should build an app that tells us where we can go to avoid driving while black traffic stops and Klansman.

Jonathan

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Friday, August 8, 2014, 12:43 AM -0400 from Steven Francisco <[address removed]>:
if it keeps the gentrification at bay I might report whole neighborhoods...
On Aug 8,[masked]:11 AM, "Therese L" < [address removed] > wrote:
>Thought this was interesting to share. 
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>Is there any way to keep white people from using computers, before this whole planet is ruined? I ask because the two enterprising white entrepreneurs above just made yet another app for avoiding non-white areas of your town—and it's really taking off!
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>Crain's reports on SketchFactor, a racist app made for avoiding "sketchy" neighborhoods, which is the term young white people use to describe places where they don't feel safe because they watched all five seasons of The Wire:
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>SketchFactor, the brainchild of co-founders Allison McGuire and Daniel Herrington, is a Manhattan-based navigation app that crowdsources user experiences along with publicly available data to rate the relative "sketchiness" of certain areas in major cities. The app will launch on the iTunes on Friday, capping off a big week for the startup, which was named as a finalist in the NYC BigApps competition.
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>According to Ms. McGuire, a Los Angeles native who lives in the West Village, the impetus behind SketchFactor was her experience as a young woman navigating the streets of Washington, D.C., where she worked at a nonprofit.
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>...
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>After meeting Mr. Herrington, an electrical engineer who was taken with the SketchFactor idea, the two quit their Washington D.C.-based jobs and decamped to New York City with funding from family and friends.
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>As one of the finalists in the BigApps competition, SketchFactor is poised to receive more attention when it launches. With firsthand experience living in Washington, D.C., where white terror is as ubiquitous as tucked-in polo shirts, grinning caucasians Allison McGuire and Daniel Herrington should be unstoppable in the field of smartphone race-baiting—they're already finalists in a $20,000 startup contest! But don't worry: they're not racist. It says so right on their blog, which asks people to share "sketchy" stories about strangers they spot:
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>Who we're not: racists, bigots, sexists. Any discriminatory posts will be deleted.
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>Source: http://valleywag.gawker.com/smiling-young-white-people-make-app-for-avoiding-black-1617775138/all
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