New in March (2007)

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Hilary Moon Murphy	Posted Mar 20, 2007 at 6:39 PM Link to this reply
Hilary Savviest Member Minneapolis, MN 7,839th Post	Okay, we've tested the mailing list feature in one of our groups and found some quirks and at least one bug. The bug is something Meetup should definitely look at. When you preview messages, it resets automatically to the default settings. Since the default settings for Orgs and AOs is the Special Announcement to the entire group, this could cause great difficulty when an Org is trying to make a discreet message just to his or her AOs... Hmm
A former member	Posted Mar 20, 2007 at 6:46 PM Link to this reply
New York, NY 251st Post	Christina Perhaps you didn't see my post from 4:46 AM in the other thread, so I thought I would place it here. I added a couple of things to my original post: Hi Christina, I'm not exactly feeling comfortable communicating the following to you on this Message Board thread, but I have no choice. I would have preferred to send you an e-mail, but I can't. The reason I can't, as I had written in my earlier post on February 8th, with my first impressions of this new Mailing List Feature HERE, is that despite your obvious ENTHUSIASM for this new feature, YOU YOURSELF have chosen not to receive e-mail. And so relunctantly, I have to communnicate with you in this manner. Keep in mind that although I have never met you, I'm sure it wouldn't be much of a stretch to say that most people who have, would say to you: Ese Gleeckya San Mele! In your post YESTERDAY you had written: " ... we did post full details about what was coming, and asked for your feedback." Rather than go into a whole discussion on how Meetup defines "is", I'll just ask you two questions. 1. How does Meetup define "full"? On the subject of feedback, most of the feedback Meetup received on the Mailing Lists Feature was, to be generous, less than thrilled. And that feedback was based on the "full" details that were given. And so my next question is: 2. Will you take the red slash off your envelope like Andrea and Greg have, and allow all e-mail? Currently I have to send on average, 3 e-mails before some members finally fill out their Member Profile. Why, because of the glut of e-mail that members currently receive from all of the groups that they are members of. That number of e-mails is now going to increase dramatically. As will the work I will have to do, to get the attention of the members of my group. And regardless if I choose to disable the Mailing List Feature, the value of all e-mail sent by everyone at Meetup, will ultimately be devalued. And so Christina, in order for your actions to be congruent with the words you enthsuiastically speak, in my opinion, you really should volunteer and remove the red slash from your envelope. It is rather unseemly looking from mine, and I think most other Organizers vantage point. (If the reason you don't allow e-mail is because you're concerned, like MOST Organizers and Members, about your private e-mail address, may I offer you the solution that Andrea has suggested: "Many Organizers choose to set up a special address for Meetup mail (like Gmail, Yahoo!, Juno or Hotmail) and that generally works out well. Is this an option you would consider?" Again, I would have preferred to send this to you in an e-mail, but I can't because of your current e-mail preferences. I look forward to your answers to my two questions and hopefully, I'll be able to e-mail you my more detailed response and suggestions for this new "Upgrade." Christina, at the same time, I truly appreciate that Meetup has allowed for an open forum on this New Feature. Our feedback on the Mailing Lists, will hopefully help this new feature be tweaked and adjusted and vastly improved, or discarded if necessary, so that we all WILL have a better Meetup. Thanks Again Meetup for having this forum! Marcello ~ The Vanguard ~ New York City's New Trailblazing Organizer Group
Len	Posted Mar 20, 2007 at 7:02 PM Link to this reply
LenDragon Leicester, GB 1,053rd Post	I'm constantly clicking "track this discussion" now because that is the spot on the page that I used to go to in order to return to the message board. I don't like this change. I LOVE the "check spelling" button though! I agree about the random moving things to different places thing. Maybe they do it to be like supermarkets. The spell check button has been available for a while. Then all the buttons went because meetup decided our message boards were better got rid of for some reason. then they were put back over a period of hours because meetup finally saw what a fantastic goof they made. Now, if they were to make spell check actually work in a language other than americanish, that would indeed be good. So there is one thing we can be sure will never happen - international settings. Len
Kimberly	Posted Mar 20, 2007 at 7:32 PM Link to this reply
funocgal San Marcos, CA 231st Post	Is there a way to turn off the mailing list feature? I made the mistake of turning it on for my group and now I can't seem to turn it off. When I send out new event announcements now I get all the bounceback emails and vacation responses etc. I never used to get those before the mailing list feature went into effect. My group has over 900 members, the mailing list is just not an effective tool for communication when my group already sends out mass amounts of email with 20+ events on the calendar every month. Kimberly
patrick	Posted Mar 20, 2007 at 8:21 PM Link to this reply
patchrik Austin, TX 51st Post	I'm constantly clicking "track this discussion" now because that is the spot on the page that I used to go to in order to return to the message board. I don't like this change. I LOVE the "check spelling" button though! Oh, oh. This is my biggest complaint. Why did they remove that link????? I get down to the bottom of the page and then after searching for the "return to messages" link and not finding it I have to scroll back to the top to locate it there. Doesn't sound like a big deal I know but we are creatures of habit and that was one "shortcut" to the list of messages. Removing it was senseless. What was wrong with it being there and at the top for those who want it at the top too???? Patrick
Carla	Posted Mar 20, 2007 at 8:46 PM Link to this reply
CarlaR Arlington, VA 1,842nd Post	OH MY GOD!! I have over 600 members, I just set a new event, sent the email and I'm getting a bunch of "out of office" replies and "mail undelivered" PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE I don't want to know about this -- it doesn't help me one bit, and can't have my inbox flooded with these emails, every time I schedule an event or send an email out. PLEASE.
A former member	Posted Mar 20, 2007 at 9:39 PM Link to this reply
Albuquerque, NM 55th Post	I love the message board. I can see everyones input at one time witout having to open several e-mail. Our discusions go on for weeks on our message board. I can come back from vacation and see what has been going on in the discussion. I hate being on mailing list and getting mail that isn't pertenate to me. I do get mail from the organizers telling me details of meetings, this is appropriate. I don't want 67 people to use a reply all to say they will or will not be there. All my e-mail accounts are free and I use them for various groups etc. I don't want anyof them filled with Junk mail. I love mailing lists when they are used appropriatly. Jean
"Old Toad"	Posted Mar 20, 2007 at 10:11 PM Link to this reply
OldToad Dallas, TX 451st Post	Note: We recommend turning off Message Boards. The Mailing List is more flexible, and using both can be confusing to members. As an Organizer, if you look at settings for the Meetup group regarding "messages" (note the change from "message board"), under "messaging settings" and then "more options," you will see the above recommendation from Meetup. -- Todd
"Old Toad"	Posted Mar 20, 2007 at 11:13 PM Link to this reply
OldToad Dallas, TX 452nd Post	Carla wrote: OH MY GOD!! I have over 600 members, I just set a new event, sent the email and I'm getting a bunch of "out of office" replies and "mail undelivered" PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE I don't want to know about this -- it doesn't help me one bit, and can't have my inbox flooded with these emails, every time I schedule an event or send an email out. PLEASE. I agree. Also, when this feature automatically bounces back an out-of-office reply, it reveals the e-mail address, which the person may not be expecting to happen by using Meetup. One of the good things about Meetup was that it gave people explicit control over their privacy and to whom to reveal their e-mail addresses. Now it can break one's privacy automatically, despite the member's personal desires. Not good anymore for assuring people that their privacy will be protected if they join a Meetup group. No wonder Meetup had to change its "Privacy Policy" to a "Not-So-Much Privacy Policy." E-mail groups have been around for years. That's not what I need for my group. These new features are not "optional" and are causing problems. -- Todd Edited by "Old Toad" on Mar 20, 2007 at 11:20 PM
Jennn	Posted Mar 21, 2007 at 12:24 AM Link to this reply
user 2764711 Saint Louis, MO 752nd Post	I was doing a test run on the email list as a regular message to those who subscribed. I had one remember reply and I went ahead and approved it this morning to test it. The message didn't come out till late late tonight. I'm using this email list in case anybody wants to make last minute plans for days we don't have events scheduled. But if the turn-a-round for the emails to be sent are over 10 hours long then there's no point in my group having it. Also it'd probably be pretty confusing. Is anybody else having this problem or just me?

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