Weekly release: March 11, 2008

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CG Sherri	Posted Mar 17, 2008 at 3:28 PM Link to this reply
Sherri-S Casa Grande, AZ 242nd Post	ZOMG. I'm ~~~practically~~~~~ speechless. I'm with ya! Can we get a support staff to chime in here again and not a volunteer moderator please? I think the survey to every paying organizer is a fantastic idea. This message thread is a sampling and sure isn't showing the majority of the 'silents' are happy with these changes! How hard would be to send an email survey to every organizer on meetup a week after a change has been made? I'm with the previous poster..if the honest results show that that we're in the minority, than show us and we'll take our loss.
z	Posted Mar 17, 2008 at 5:20 PM Link to this reply
zodak Brooklyn, NY 90th Post	I for one LIKE the new changes. I am sure other organizers do also. You have to remember there are way more organizers out there than those who post to these boards. hopefully someone will run a query to determine if the overall # of post-event comments has decreased after this change. hopefully the raw #s will show that the post-event survey should be modified.
Michele	Posted Mar 17, 2008 at 5:47 PM Link to this reply
carolinagirl7 Glen Allen, VA 98th Post	ZOMG. I'm ~~~practically~~~~~ speechless. I'm with ya! Can we get a support staff to chime in here again and not a volunteer moderator please? I think the survey to every paying organizer is a fantastic idea. This message thread is a sampling and sure isn't showing the majority of the 'silents' are happy with these changes! How hard would be to send an email survey to every organizer on meetup a week after a change has been made? I'm with the previous poster..if the honest results show that that we're in the minority, than show us and we'll take our loss. What a novel concept - actually find out how many organizers like something new instead of assuming "the silent majority" likes it. How about a compromise - leave the "talk about this meeting" section for the at least one organizer who does like it and bring back the old survey which asked for comments about the event (NOT the meeting) within the survey for the rest of us? Even members who fill out the survey can always go back and keep on posting about the event to their hearts' content. If the old survey can't be brought back, please allow us the option to turn the survey off. If I can't get meaningful, useful, and appropriate (i.e. in the right comment section) feedback, I'd rather have none. As Len would say, don't force new things on us or take away things we actually like without giving us the option to opt out or in, as appropriate. Michele
Rachel	Posted Mar 17, 2008 at 5:50 PM Link to this reply
RACH3LV Meetup Staff Tampa, FL 3,642nd Post	Meetup does send out random surveys. I cannot say for sure if there was one related to this or not. I have personally received them before. Rachel
Maddie	Posted Mar 17, 2008 at 7:45 PM Link to this reply
mommies2girls Orland Park, IL 71st Post	I had already written in the 'suggestion' threads but I just found this one.... what the heck is going on?!!! I am so frustrated! We had a meetup today and I go to take the survey...holy! What have you done meetup? After reading through the last few pages of this thread...I see that I'm definitely not alone. BRING BACK COMMENTS FOR THE EVENT IN THE SURVEY!. Are you serious? I'm supposed to tell my members that if they want to leave a comment about an event they have to go to the past event page and put in a comment that goes in with all the comments that may have been made previously leading up to an event? That makes no sense. And the survey? Gees, can we please just rate events, the group and venues all seperately? I have members that say...well the event sucked (service was bad, venue was poorly organized, whatever) but they love the group, it's not the groups fault. So they want to rate the event as poor but can't because they know it will affect the group rating. There are so many reasons why this all shouldn't be grouped together. We have carpool location (JB's Parking Lot) that is used as an event location a lot. But our actual destination is a sports event. Hmmm. Or say we go to a venue and the venue is great (we go there all the time) but this particular event could have been better...like a concert in the park...the venue was wonderful as usual, but this month's band was terrible, but the group isn't responsible for either. We should be able to rate the venue as great, the event as 'don't ever want to see that band again and then the group as whole. The group rating should be like the current venue rating...the rating just stays...but with the same comment...you have rated the group a five in the past...but if that has changed..... And please change or get rid of the wording about 'why should others join this meetup'. It's not my members job to recruit new members! They do that by word of mouth through their friends, co-workers and acquaintances. Just let them comment about the group again. The comments between this and taking away the event comments are getting all screwy when they appear on the about us page. And now I understand why they are suddenly NOT COMMENTING or taking the survey at all. The last event with the old and better survey had a 62% survey completion ratio with comment. The last two on the new survey...you guessed it...just me and me alone :(. I agree that the survey needed some help...but the only thing you did on this go around was make the layout better but made the whole darn thing confusing. And how come attendance numbers aren't showing up anymore??? I noticed that at an event yesterday, attendance was right on..so I didn't need to adjust it...but it shows blank like no one went? What the heck? Hey, it just dawned on me...I wasn't asked how many attended my event today. Holy smokes..what are you guys doing? And please, bring back rotating comments on the welcome page! No one is voting and the same two comments are going to sit on the welcome change indefinitely...how boring when there are soooo many great group comments to choose from :(. Man alive, I love meetup..it's awesome...but I've only been around for a year and am seeing where things like 'waiting lists' have been begged for continuously for much longer than that...but yet...80% of the upgrades are things like rating comments, changing meetup logos, taking away event comments...all things that just don't make sense to us and we aren't asking for? Gees, I'm ranting and I apologize...but I must say, I'm totally confused. Why does it seem like meetup keeps trying to fix something that isn't broken? I will acknowledge that the other 20% are in fact useful changes but seriously...shouldn't that ratio be reversed? Sherri, You could not have said it better for all of us!!!! Once again...I hate the new system!! Again, I'm afraid and sick to know new, potential members may see a bad rating for example: a venue or wait staff service and think it's the rating for the group or OMG...ME! I really feel this is going to refect on the group and may hurt us in the long run. We ALL pay OUR yearly fee and if others haven't commented yet it could be because they are like me and just found these threads and don't know they can have an opinion or have posted on other issues in the past with no resolve in sight!!
Amy	Posted Mar 17, 2008 at 9:38 PM Link to this reply
amyhaha Brigantine, NJ 1,216th Post	wow. i'm prepared for an onslaught, but i really, really like the new system! (haven't used it enough to say "love" LOL.) we just had a great event, and now the the event page is super fun and engaging. for a group like ours, where you want to see what fun stuff the group does before you join, this type of post-event description is fantastic--allows potential members to see the camaraderie we have, allows us to post private photo pages and other links, and also allows for fun, positive comments as well as positive feedback. not that the other way didn't but you can separate them now! friendlier. this morning we had 11 ratings. i sent out an event recap to everyone who responded "yes" or "maybe" with the link to the page, asking them to rate if they attended (which i always do) i also explained the new comment feature. now 17 people have rated, and a few have added fun comments. of course, not all post event pages will end up like that....depends on what the organizer puts into it post event. i personally love to look back at the photos & places we've been. not that i look at all of them.....but LOL i'll look at this one again & again. super fun!!!! as for the survey, i'm not entirely sure since i've only done it once. i wish there was a way to be sure someone who didn't attend doesn't give it stars. when we "edit attendance", do the no-show's ratings disappear? also i'm assuming the venue comments will come back when we have a new venue database? now if only the "search feature" was applicable across the whole group......and we could "track" no-shows.... stands proudly behind her opinions and behind the new post-event pages and says thanks to Rachel for the time she volunteers on these boards deleting spam and answering questions from new organizers that have already been asked and answered a million times p.s. the whole voting on comments thing has to go, though. Edited by Amy on Mar 17, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Duchess & Teddy	Posted Mar 17, 2008 at 11:23 PM Link to this reply
user 3146952 Washington, DC 138th Post	Meetup does send out random surveys. I cannot say for sure if there was one related to this or not. I have personally received them before. Rachel YOU GOT A SURVEY! I WANT A RANDOM SURVEY TOO! Dottie
Rachel	Posted Mar 17, 2008 at 11:29 PM Link to this reply
RACH3LV Meetup Staff Tampa, FL 3,668th Post	Dottie, LoL I do not know how they are selected but I have received surveys before. Not sure why we dont get them more often but at least they are floating around out there. Rachel
Amy	Posted Mar 18, 2008 at 12:30 AM Link to this reply
amyhaha Brigantine, NJ 1,220th Post	i just got a survey last week. it was extremely vague and i don't think it had anything to do with design/format of the website.
Sheryl "Non-Cultur...	Posted Mar 18, 2008 at 1:43 AM Link to this reply
user 2431853 New York, NY 464th Post	I don't like the new event surveys either. 22 people came to an event Saturday, no one commented. At least 3-4 of those people are regulars who comment all the time. I would usually expect at least 4-5 comments from those numbers. One regular member who comments all the time even commented about the event on his Facebook page, but wrote nothing on Meetup. I do not appreciate having to do more work than necessary, especially after an event. I also don't like sending out even 1 more email to crowd members' inboxes than I have to. So ... 1. I do not like to take attendance -- I'd rather just have the option to write in a number of who came. It's not that I don't care who was there, like the little survey on attendance says -- for the most part, I get this information from who paid and my own memory. 2. I do not like to send a reminder email to people to comment on the event after it One of the things I like about doing 2-3 events per month basically on my own is a sense of completion and accomplishment after each one. When I go out to eat after an event with members/friends, I don't like to think about the clerical work waiting for me when I get home. Edited by Sheryl "Non-Cultured" on Mar 18, 2008 at 1:58 AM

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