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Re: [atheists-59] Santa Clause

From: David S.
Sent on: Friday, April 20, 2007 10:32 PM
Yeah!

Who the hell needs meetups anyways?  If we keep using this meetup  
group to talk about stuff I'm totally leaving too!

Hmmph!

On Apr 20, 2007, at 10:05 PM, David Narkunas wrote:

> stop the madness already.
> santa shmanta; easter bunny and christ are relevant as fuck.
> oh, and by the way, my cat's breath smells like cat food.(cite ralph)
> if you guys dont'd cease these shinannigans, i'm out.
> Atheists and agnostics are smart as it comes. Can't you guys figure
> these trivial things out on your own?!
> you guys are nuts!
>
>
> On 4/20/07, Michael <[address removed]> wrote:
>> You might want to ask some experts, but I never liked being lied  
>> to. It
>> just creates distrust.
>>
>> I remember quite young overhearing some older kids say that there  
>> is no
>> Santa Claus. It immediately made sense to me and I accepted it
>> immediately. It was not a let down. I felt glad to know the truth.
>>
>> Kids can make up plenty of fantasies on their own. They don't need  
>> them
>> imposed on them by adults. You can always get your kids fiction  
>> books.
>> Books (whether read themselves or by adults -- or even audio plays)
>> stimulate the imagination, because kids (and adults) must themselves
>> make up what the characters actually look and sound like. That's  
>> why I
>> didn't like Harry Potter being made into a movie.
>>
>> lindsay nixon wrote:
>> > I had a horrible experience. (Most of you know this story)
>> >
>> > When I figured it out -- I was pissed at my parents for lying to  
>> me. I
>> > don't
>> > have a great relationship with my parents now -- and I believe a  
>> lot
>> > of it
>> > has to do with that episode.
>> >
>> > My sister is an atheist and has two daughters -- and while they  
>> don't
>> > think
>> > there is a Santa Clause she still does "holiday" things with  
>> them such as
>> > putting up a tree, lights, making cookies (secular ones i.e.  
>> snow flakes)
>> > She also lives in a predominately Jewish town (her kids ones  
>> came home
>> > with
>> > a menorah they made in art class!) so they would have been  
>> equally out of
>> > place even if she did celebrate "xmas" in the Christian sense...
>> >
>> > Don't you love how Christians feed the retail industry?  
>> Personally I've
>> > never needed an excuse to spend money...
>> > (My Husband & I don't celebrate Christmas - but we do invite guests
>> > over for
>> > Winter Solstice).
>> >
>> > On 4/19/07, Mark Simpson <[address removed]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>­ On Thu, 19 Apr[masked]:28:18 -0400 (EDT), Roy  
>> <[address removed]>
>> >> said:
>> >>
>> >>     Roy> As much as I am a die-hard atheist, a part of me wants  
>> him to
>> >>     Roy> grow up believing in some fantasies, including Santa  
>> Clause,
>> >>     Roy> at least for a couple of years.  Isn't that part of  
>> being a
>> >>     Roy> child?  Are we right to deny Santa Clause from our  
>> children?
>> >>
>> >> I am not sure if i ever believed in Santa Clause.  I used to help
>> >> bring the presents in from my Aunt's car & put them under the tree
>> >> (the presents were stored at my Aunt's house, presumably so  
>> that my
>> >> brother and i would not find them and sneak opening them).  By  
>> helping
>> >> put them under the tree I could make sure i knew where all of them
>> >> were when we went to open them.
>> >>
>> >> I don't think anything was lost from my childhood by not having  
>> this
>> >> belief in some gift-giving entity... the gifts came from real  
>> people
>> >> that loved me and wished to bestow presents upon me, and who i  
>> gave
>> >> presents to as well in the same spirit.
>> >>
>> >> - mark
>> >>
>> >> (now the tooth fairy is another matter entirely... i do remember
>> >> believing that one at least for a little while...[grin])
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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