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RE: [bostonatheists] Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - Eric Newbury Mar 13, 2014 10:10 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - I personally believe that there is a reality out there that exists independent of our minds. I do not believe that nihilism regarding that is warranted. Yes, our interactions with that David M Mar 13, 2014 10:06 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - " Our conscience minds do not create reality.  " SCMA Mar 13, 2014 10:02 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - ----- Armand Provencal wrote: > Good argument! Our conscience minds create realty. I have to disagree. Our conscience minds do not create reality. Reality is there whether we are here or not. We can put meaning to reality, but Scott Mar 13, 2014 10:00 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - p { margin: 0; } Good argument! Our conscience minds create realty. Armand From: "David M" Armand Provencal Mar 13, 2014 9:56 AM
RE: [bostonatheists] Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - Evolution made atheism intellectually respectable. It doesn't matter whether all atheists accept it or not. There will always be outliers who believe in lizard people or whatever. Evol David M Mar 13, 2014 9:45 AM
RE: [bostonatheists] Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - I know this is somewhat of a dead horse idea, so I won't restate it unless someone wants to have a discussion about it, I suppose, but I don't see why we're necessarily having a discussion about evolution since atheism does not mean a belief in scientific Eric Newbury Mar 12, 2014 11:29 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - You asked "what is it that gives your life meaning" in the context of, if not religion. I do. Each of us does. It is a choice one cannot delegate. Whether maximizing personal pleasure, or serving your fellow human, or providing assets and a live Don Lubin Mar 12, 2014 10:06 AM
Re: Maum flyer spotted in Cambridge - If you want to share word of Maum's activity in Cambridge, you can send people to this post on the BA blog:  http:/ Zachary Bos Mar 11, 2014 7:26 PM
Maum flyer spotted in Cambridge - Dear BAers (rawr): I've uploaded a document to the Boston Atheists Meetup files section, which you can access at http://files.meetup.co Zachary Bos Mar 11, 2014 7:01 PM
RE: [bostonatheists] Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - Eric Newbury Mar 10, 2014 12:46 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - " Not at all. For that to be true you’d have to say that everyone that has a religious or supernatural framew Zachary Bos Mar 10, 2014 11:52 AM
RE: [bostonatheists] Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - Eric Newbury Mar 10, 2014 11:46 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - " I’m not entirely sure why atheism per se has anything to do with a biological principle like evolution.&quo Zachary Bos Mar 10, 2014 11:38 AM
RE: [bostonatheists] Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - Eric Newbury Mar 10, 2014 11:36 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - " Zachary, can you elaborate on how you think he misread the book?" I'm not averse to conversation, but in the int Zachary Bos Mar 10, 2014 10:25 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - Coincidentally, I just happened to finish Darwin's Dangerous Idea a couple weeks ago. I guess I have to agree with the author of the paper to some extent, especially about the last two chapters -- the part where Dennett tries to g Dan Mar 10, 2014 9:48 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] See if you can see what's interesting about this Wikipedia page update I got notice about this evening. - On 3/9/2014 9:13 PM, Zachary Bos wrote: > > Inline image 1 The editing IP address is from a block around Lawrence? -- Scott `-- c8 ] Scott Mar 10, 2014 6:44 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] See if you can see what's interesting about this Wikipedia page update I got notice about this evening. - 33% of the words are misspelled? On 3/9/2014 9:13 PM, Zachary Bos wrote: > > Inline image 1 > > > PS: Did you know that you can get automatic alerts when pages of > interest to you are edited? You can create your own set of alerts by > adding Don Lubin Mar 9, 2014 11:31 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] See if you can see what's interesting about this Wikipedia page update I got notice about this evening. - I think they meant "You're a fucker" William J Sweeney Mar 9, 2014 10:03 PM
See if you can see what's interesting about this Wikipedia page update I got notice about this evening. - PS: Did you know that you can get automatic alerts when pages of interest to you are edited? You c Zachary Bos Mar 9, 2014 9:12 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] "Scary Thought: What if Folks in the New Atheist Crowd Held Political Office?" - Change the laws. It should okay to have an out of the closet atheist president. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Zachary Bos < Glenn Deane Mar 9, 2014 7:56 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - Funny, I am as accepting of evolution as I am of gravity, and somehow this "universal acid" of evolution has never eaten through what gives my life meaning. I know a large number of people who would say the same thing. Jim Hollomon Mar 9, 2014 7:10 PM
"Scary Thought: What if Folks in the New Atheist Crowd Held Political Office?" - File this one under the "keeping tabs on the enemy" heading. From http://www.evolutionnews.org/2­014/03/what_if_the_daw082901.h­tml : Zachary Bos Mar 9, 2014 6:34 PM
Food for thought: "Darwin's nihilistic idea: evolution and the meaninglessness of life" (2003) - A member of a Naturalism forum I frequent posted a link to a decade-old paper, http://people.duke.edu/~alexro­se/dditamler.pdf . The poster invited naturalists to "bite th Zachary Bos Mar 9, 2014 5:55 PM
Bizzle. Same Love. Homophobic to the max. See a post by Jaclyn Glenn. Christian right just slugged us in the face. What are we going to do about it. - Glenn Deane Mar 9, 2014 1:17 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] For scholarly atheists among us: The Occult Roots of Scientology? L. Ron Hubbard, AleistPOrigins of a Controversial New Religion - LllX$lllllllllllLlllllllllllll­llllllllLll Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Zachary Bos Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 14:14:02 To: Subject: [bostonatheists] For s chris Mar 8, 2014 6:36 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] The new Cosmos: "Your God is Too Small" - > the humorless pronunciation of *Uranus* as *YUR-anis* As someone who has been at star parties for grammar-school boys, I know that this is the _only_ way to pronounce it without causing snickering. Scott `-- c8 ] Scott Mar 7, 2014 9:44 AM
The new Cosmos: "Your God is Too Small" - From http://trove.com/me/content/4Y­COG : Zachary Bos Mar 7, 2014 9:31 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Do sports make women less religious? - Interesting line of thought. More generally, is there a negative correlation between *good health* and religiosity? A positive correlation between sickness and religion? At the 1929 Congress of the World League for Sexual Reform C.E.M. Joad said: John Lauritsen Mar 7, 2014 9:22 AM
For scholarly atheists among us: The Occult Roots of Scientology? L. Ron Hubbard, Aleister Crowley, and the Origins of a Controversial New Religion - The Occult Roots of Scientology? Zachary Bos Mar 7, 2014 9:13 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Do sports make women less religious? - I would say very likely yes.  Remember, a lot of the claims of religion are counterintuitive to every-day lived experience, and stay freshly "believed" in part due to regular reinforcement from a community of believers.  That' Laura Quilter Mar 7, 2014 8:25 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Do sports make women less religious? - T he authors are not claiming a David M Mar 7, 2014 2:47 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Do sports make women less religious? - It does to men! :) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 6, 2014, at 12:07 AM, "Erica Gewirtz" < Raja Mar 6, 2014 11:10 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Do sports make women less religious? - As a female powerlifter here's my take: being a competitive female athlete is hard fucking work. Not only is it hard but you face so much criticism Aislinn Woody Mar 5, 2014 7:50 PM
[bostonatheists] Do sports make women less religious? - Wow! Interesting question. I think this article took a rather simplistic view. Will women in more liberal parts of this nation have these benefits? It's a lot more likely than women in the Bible Belt. I think other factors include the income level of Erica Gewirtz Mar 5, 2014 7:27 PM
Do sports make women less religious? - Hmm. http://regressing.deadspin.com­/title-ixs-other-effecs-do-spo­rts-make-women-less-rel-153595­5083/@dodai Zachary Bos Mar 5, 2014 6:22 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] For the philosophically inclined: "L'incroyance religieuse" in Open Access - De rien :) 2014-03-05 17:38 GMT-05:00 Kien Lang < [address removed] > : Zachary Bos Mar 5, 2014 5:47 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] John Edwards opposition - I just looked this guy up. I recognized him when I saw his site. What a lowlife. I'm sure I can contribute some ideas for protes adrian Mar 5, 2014 5:34 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] For the philosophically inclined: "L'incroyance religieuse" in Open Access - Zac, Kien Lang Mar 5, 2014 5:33 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] John Edwards opposition - http://content.time.com/time/m­agazine/article/0,9171,100555,­00.html Erica Gewirtz Mar 5, 2014 4:43 PM
An atheist write: "Sin: Making Sense Out of Nonsense" - SCA founder Herb Silverman has a fine piece up on Faithstreet : Zachary Bos Mar 5, 2014 1:18 PM
John Edwards opposition - Dear Glenn, Erica, and others: Here's the info:  http://johnedward.net/event/44­36/boston-ma . What do you think would be the way to go? We can spam the local pape Zachary Bos Mar 5, 2014 10:51 AM
Any BU alumni in the group? - Let me know! I'd like to add you to the membership list for the Humanist & Atheist Alumni of Boston University. Find us online at https://www.facebook.com/group­s/haabu . Zachary Bos Mar 5, 2014 9:17 AM
For the philosophically inclined: "L'incroyance religieuse" in Open Access - This issue of the theology/philosophy journal ThéoRèmes, at http://theoremes.revues.org/50­7 , is devoted to exploration of the topic of "L& Zachary Bos Mar 5, 2014 9:11 AM
RE: [bostonatheists] Psychic John Edward.... - whatever you do, it will be of service to clear obscurantism cathy mclaughlin Mar 4, 2014 10:01 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Psychic John Edward.... - I'd love to go to one of those huge faith healing gigs. "Do you believe in Jeezuzah!.... Demon out!!" I'd Chevy Chase the adrian Mar 4, 2014 8:03 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Psychic John Edward.... - >> ... is peddling his pretend powers on stage in Boston, June 11th. Do >> we want to plan to do some op-eds before hand, do some leaflet >> distribution and "psychic jamming" (by thinking hard outside the >> venue) on the day of? Do you know where Scott Mar 4, 2014 6:29 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Psychic John Edward.... - Love to.  On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Zachary Bos < [address removed] > wrote: Erica Gewirtz Mar 4, 2014 12:27 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Psychic John Edward.... - Does anyone want to pick a time and place (with pizza and, perhaps, beer?) for a little planning session? And it's high time we got together anyway :) Zachary Bos Mar 4, 2014 12:04 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Psychic John Edward.... - You should talk to the Granite State Skeptics. They picketed that guy a while back and learned some valuable lessons. Andrew Hall Mar 4, 2014 12:01 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Psychic John Edward.... - The Biggest Douche in the Universe? He's coming here? I'm so excited! On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Zachary Bos < Turner Mar 4, 2014 11:42 AM
I'm in. - Glenn Deane Mar 4, 2014 12:47 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Psychic John Edward.... - Hello, My name is Erica. I am new to this organization but very passionate about curbing the belief in pretend super powers of anyone whe Erica Gewirtz Mar 4, 2014 12:07 AM
Psychic John Edward.... - ... is peddling his pretend powers on stage in Boston, June 11th. Do we want to plan to do some op-eds before hand, do some leaflet distribution and "psychic jamming" (by thinking hard outside the venue) on the day of? Zachary Bos Mar 3, 2014 6:42 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] From io9: "This is the science vs. theology debate we wanted" - The YouTube videos of this event went private as soon as the live streaming finished. (They were public during the live streaming.) Sean posted on his blog that the videos would eventually be public. I don't know if it's a matter of Lev Feb 24, 2014 2:14 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] From io9: "This is the science vs. theology debate we wanted" - I can't imagine! It should be a public post. On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Jim Hollomon < etpro Zachary Bos Feb 24, 2014 2:07 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] From io9: "This is the science vs. theology debate we wanted" - It's marked Private. Do you have to join io9 to be able to view it? Jim On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Zachary Bos < Jim Hollomon Feb 24, 2014 2:05 PM
From io9: "This is the science vs. theology debate we wanted" - http://io9.com/this-is-the-sci­ence-vs-theology-debate-we-wan­ted-1528338845 Zachary Bos Feb 24, 2014 9:52 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Fwd: What are atheists for? Hypotheses on the functions of non-belief in the evolution of religion - Hi Catherine, Can you elaborate on what Johnson's reaction or what he didn't like about your response? Or point us in the direction of where we could find such information? Your reasoning seems sound to me and from a personal perspective this is w Lucas Feb 18, 2014 6:22 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Fwd: What are atheists for? Hypotheses on the functions of non-belief in the evolution of religion - Hi all - since I've been contributing a bit to this list, let me say that I published a response to Dominic Johnson's article (part of invited peer commentary to his article). Also, my review of atheist personality/cognitive traits was in the same issues Catherine Caldwell-Harris Feb 18, 2014 8:39 AM
Fwd: What are atheists for? Hypotheses on the functions of non-belief in the evolution of religion - Phil M. writes: " Zachary Bos Feb 18, 2014 8:20 AM
Bigfoot novel with a creationist twist - Author Frank Peretti self-published "Monster" in 2005, through the UK-based Christian imprint West Bow Press. I came across the novel while researching depictions of Bigfoot stories in recent trade fiction. Little did I know Zachary Bos Feb 17, 2014 9:25 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Creationist questions rephrased for clarity - As the deadly dreary Daddy of 12 year old and 9 year old daughters, I applaud and welcome this injection of parenting advice into Paul G. Brown Feb 16, 2014 4:24 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Creationist questions rephrased for clarity - Hi Catherine -- I'm parenting a 5-2/3 yo and LOVE what you have written here about parenting.  I'm not familiar with child development / child psychology, but I am very conscious of authoritarian parenting versus what we have tried Laura Quilter Feb 16, 2014 2:46 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Creationist questions rephrased for clarity - Hey, Congrats on your recent nuptials Zach! May you and the Mrs. enjoy a long and happy life together, filled with common sense, reason, and the pi Tamar Feb 16, 2014 12:41 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Creationist questions rephrased for clarity - Here is a link to a short Joe Frank audio piece, which seems to be inspired by belief systems such as Noetics. Jon Goldberg Feb 16, 2014 12:35 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Creationist questions rephrased for clarity - Catherine, That is a really interesting observation. I have been aware that there is a pretty decent consensus in literature that children go through a fairly strong phase of magical thinking, and furthermore that this is th Gabriel M Feb 16, 2014 11:35 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Creationist questions rephrased for clarity - On 2/16/2014 6:27 AM, Zachary Bos wrote: > The other night, Jenna (you'll have met her before as my gf; as of last > Saturday, she's my wife! - Z) Congratulations!! -- Scott `-- c8 ] Scott Feb 16, 2014 11:23 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Creationist questions rephrased for clarity - On Feb 16, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Zach Catherine Caldwell-Harris Feb 16, 2014 11:16 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Creationist questions rephrased for clarity - Zachary, Congratulations to you and Jenna on your recent marriage. I wish you both all the best. It is not only one of the most important Jim Brinning Feb 16, 2014 8:04 AM
Creationist questions rephrased for clarity - The other night, Jenna (you'll have met her before as my gf; as of last Saturday, she's my wife! - Z) asked me what "noetics" is. I was all, wuh? Turns out she was looking at th Zachary Bos Feb 16, 2014 6:26 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Amusing and not entirely wrong: God's biggest d-moves - adrian Feb 15, 2014 3:57 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Amusing and not entirely wrong: God's biggest d-moves - Catherine (& others), You might like this: In Stephanie Feb 15, 2014 2:27 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Amusing and not entirely wrong: God's biggest d-moves - Preview not available Catherine Caldwell-Harris Feb 15, 2014 1:37 PM
Amusing and not entirely wrong: God's biggest d-moves - http://io9.com/gods-12-biggest­-dick-moves-in-the-old-testame­nt-1522970429 Zachary Bos Feb 15, 2014 8:49 AM
Article of interest: Gopnik on atheism - http://www.newyorker.com/arts/­critics/atlarge/2014/02/17/140­217crat_atlarge_gopnik?current­Page=all Zachary Bos Feb 14, 2014 10:44 AM
“Humanity Forced to Put God Down” - Preview not available Bob Feb 12, 2014 7:09 PM
Happy Darwin Day! - Happy 205th birthday, Charles Darwin! -- Scott `-- c8 ] Scott Feb 12, 2014 7:22 AM
A little Friday night levity ... - The Higgs Boson walks into a church and the priest says "We do not allow your kind in he William J Sweeney Feb 7, 2014 9:43 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Article on "Satanic" abuse - Preview not available John Lauritsen Feb 3, 2014 11:35 AM
Article on "Satanic" abuse - From Slate magazine, an article by Linda Rodriguez McRobbie: "The Real Victims of Satanic Ritual Abuse." Subtitled, "The dangers were imaginary, but the consequences were not." Zachary Bos Feb 3, 2014 9:39 AM
Saving the World, Through Evolutionary Biology! - I take a lot of issue with creationism.  It's not just that it's wrong; it's that it's seriously holding us back from being able to solve some of the world's biggest problems. Ma Stephanie Jan 31, 2014 10:28 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] IMPORTANT DOCUMENT - Yeah, it has all the hallmarks of a phishing attempt. All caps, "very important", no details, and a link pointing to a URL intended to look legit if you only glance at it. -- Scott `-- c8 ] On 1/31/2014 4:42 AM, Don Lubin wrote: > Sorry bu Scott Jan 31, 2014 7:18 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] IMPORTANT DOCUMENT - Sorry but it seems like spam or phishing that the CLICK HERE link doesn't go to Google Docs, but to some address in Montenegro. If the document is so important, why don't you mention what it is about? My guess is that you have been hacked. On 1 Don Lubin Jan 31, 2014 4:42 AM
IMPORTANT DOCUMENT - Mckinley Jan 31, 2014 3:06 AM
Friday morning atheist news links to read! - Some recommended reading. All best, Z Rayyan Al-Sha Zachary Bos Jan 10, 2014 7:51 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Fwd: Finding God in Maximum Security Prison - This is an excellent message, Zachary, and I'm curious how Maria Greene Jan 9, 2014 1:38 PM
Fwd: Finding God in Maximum Security Prison - Of possible interest. Is anyone in the group involved in prisoner rights? All best, Z ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Zachary Bos Zachary Bos Jan 9, 2014 1:15 PM
Slate article: Satanic abuse convictions may be vacated - Preview not available Zachary Bos Jan 9, 2014 8:34 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Should we have religious monument in govt buildings? - I think religious monuments have no business being on government property. But if it is insisted that people have the right to represent their reli Meredith B Jan 7, 2014 9:46 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Should we have religious monument in govt buildings? - Zachary Bos Jan 7, 2014 12:59 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Should we have religious monument in govt buildings? - More on the topic: I recently was arguing with an ardent Christian who stated that the "in god we trust" is on our currency after all...isn't that Tim Hladik jr. Jan 7, 2014 12:55 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Should we have religious monument in govt buildings? - Tim Hladik jr. Jan 7, 2014 12:29 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Should we have religious monument in govt buildings? - Heck yes. Yes: Heck! One of my favorite works of sculpture:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L­e_génie_du_mal SCMA Jan 7, 2014 11:13 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Should we have religious monument in govt buildings? - I totally agree with you Zach... but, I have to admit that I would take a certain amount of joy from seeing a giant statue of Satan in the Oklahoma capitol building.  On Tue Fran Harrington Jan 7, 2014 10:25 AM
RE: [bostonatheists] Should we have religious monument in govt buildings? - No need for me to weigh in, because as usual Zach, you expre Tamar Jan 7, 2014 10:14 AM
Should we have religious monument in govt buildings? - Continuing the conversation started by the proposal to place a statue of Satan at Oklahoma's state capitol, the Facebook team at CBS Boston has asked a question:  "Should commissioners approve the Zachary Bos Jan 7, 2014 9:48 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Fascinating Tampa Bay Times piece on unlicensed religious children's homes - Preview not available Lorraine Lavoie Jan 6, 2014 9:24 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Fascinating Tampa Bay Times piece on unlicensed religious children's homes - Seems like something uniquely Floridian to me. Well, maybe Texas. William J Sweeney Jan 4, 2014 6:39 PM

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