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A former member
Post #: 2
There's a saying: What do they call homeopathic medicine that works? Medicine.


Though I agree wholeheartedly with this, the question does arise: Who will fund the experiments to test natural remedies? Will Pfizer or Novartis be interested in funding studies if there is no way to artificially manufacture the compound should it prove effective?

That's not to say that we should abandon the application of the scientific method in determining which medicines work and which do not, however, we should be mindful of the fact that studies require funding and perhaps put more of our own money into helping with this.
A former member
Post #: 8
The problem with homeopathy is that it is fundamentally a bit illogical.

The dilutions the homeopathic industry uses are so enormous that the chances that your bottle actually contain one molecule of the active substance are extremely improbable. The dilution range is 1:10^12 to 1:10^400, most solutions are diluted 1:10^60, that is 10 to the power of 60!...think about that (with a cup of tea while scratching your chin), that is just a mind boggling dilution. (even the lower ones are)

Now because of this they even admit they sell water, but it has 'memory'. But if that is the case, the water should also carry memory of all sorts of other substances it has inevitably been in contact with. There is also memory of cyanide, chloride or nuclear waste... (trying to get out of this will probably lead to increasingly elaborate and increasingly silly theories)

I think homeopathy is a good 'catalyst' for the placebo effect, which *is* measurable. In some cases people actually get better by thinking they are getting better.

You might argue that if it works by placebo effect, then it works. Well yes, but homeopathy does not statistically distinguish itself from other things (fake pills, or magic crystals) that have the same effect. So it is not the homeopathy that is 'special' here, it's the patient.

At the moment there is no reason to assume it works (outside of the placebo effect). Perhaps the homeopathic industry could do some trials. They are not some green goody hobby industry that can't afford trials, they are a multi-billion dollar industry (and even subsidized in some countries), they have the funding to do them. And the knowledge on double blind randomized control trials is public knowledge, you can look it up. There is nothing stopping them from doing a scrupulous and scientific solid study...well perhaps something is stopping them, but it isn't money or the knowledge on how to do trials.
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