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Vivian Creek 3BII

With 4 big waterfalls Vivian Creek is one of the classic canyons in Southern California. We will need a permit for this one which is one reason why I'm posting it now for January due to high volume of people Canyoneering here on weekends.


Hiking time: 5.5 hours
Estimated hiking distance:5 miles
Elevation gain: 1000 feet
USGS Topo Map: Forest Falls
Difficulties: Four large, wet cascades measuring 160ft, 90ft, 70ft and 120ft.
Special equipment: Rappeling gear, harnesses, 60m rope, 60m recovery cord or second rope, five rappel rings, 50ft webbing, drybags.
ACA Rating: 3B II

Depending on who signs up and where we are all coming from will determine the meet-up time and location. I'd like to car pool if possible as it's a bit of a drive out to the Vivian Creek trailhead. If we car pool from the valley we'll probably meet between 5-6am.

Group Gear:
I have a 200ft rope so we'd need another 200ft (150ft would work too). If you don't have a rope you can still join but we won't have a trip if we don't get the second rope. Bring webbing and rapides if you've got them.

Detailed beta can be found here: http://www.dankat.com/swhikes/vivian.htm

NOTE: Since this is not a guided trip and because canyoneering is a team sport where every member should be able to rappel well, inspect anchors, build new anchors, rig for all contingencies, manage ropes efficiently and contribute in every aspect of the adventure, anyone who's profile doesn't reflect the appropriate training or sufficient experience will not be allowed to participate. Hope you understand.

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  • Jorge

    Hey quick question for everyone, some of you had an auto block rope, it looked very handy. Is there anyway I can get the name of the company that produces them? Thanks!

    January 13, 2014

    • Diana

      Klaus

      1 · January 14, 2014

    • Jorge

      I don't know D, I kind of like Kalus! MY NAME IS KA-LUS! And I'm here to save your life! Exceptionally Beautiful, LOVE IT!

      January 15, 2014

  • Tina R.

    Freddy has lead another stellar canyon! Thank you;for your time and commitment. This is a canyon definetly worth repeating!

    January 11, 2014

  • Brian of the Swan C.

    One of my favorite canyons in SoCal! Great contributions from everyone today and Freddy did a great job leading as always.

    January 11, 2014

  • Jorge

    Amazing! The switchbacks were painful but worth the adventure. Would recommend this to anyone. Loved it!

    January 11, 2014

  • Freddy

    Magnificent! The tempatures was perfect about 70 in the canyon with sun on us all day. Great group as usual. Next time we do Big Falls as well.

    1 · January 11, 2014

  • Peter J.

    Great locale, just wish it were a bit longer!

    1 · January 11, 2014

  • John G.

    Another great day in a canyon. We will have to do this one again.

    January 11, 2014

  • Rodney E.

    Little late joining in but I'm in Valencia if any of the Ventura boys want a ride

    January 10, 2014

  • Peter J.

    So, might be a silly question, but since this is gonna be wet & cold, but not a swimmer, are folks bringing wetsuits or just rain gear? I assumed wetsuits, but could just be being paranoid...

    January 10, 2014

    • John G.

      I'm bringing my wetsuit. If there is decent flow I'm going down the middle of the last fall. You can mostly avoid the water if you wish.

      January 10, 2014

    • Rodney E.

      mines in the jeep but my 5mil booties don't fit in my shoes.....damn it!!!!!

      January 10, 2014

  • Freddy

    I'm bringing my water filter for those who want to cut back on weight, but bring a water bottle

    1 · January 10, 2014

  • Dan E.

    Well, since Brian's car filled up. I can carry three. I'm in the valley along the 5. When, a 5:30 start? I see a Culver City carpool. Anymore from the Valley?

    January 6, 2014

    • Gokul R.

      NM. Me and John will be car pooling. I am gonna pick him up from OC.
      Thanks to all.

      January 10, 2014

    • Peter J.

      Cool

      January 10, 2014

  • John G.

    I'll bring my rope bag. Leaving my bouncy rope at home.

    1 · January 10, 2014

    • Tina R.

      OK...I'll will bring my 200ft 8.3 Imlay

      January 10, 2014

  • Freddy

    We'll need two 200" of rope rapieds and webbing for this one I have a 200" so bring what you can.

    January 6, 2014

    • Brian of the Swan C.

      I've got maybe 50 feet of webbing and my 200ft 8.3mm rope plus 5 or 6 rapides. We can figure out what to carry in when we meet.

      January 10, 2014

    • Brian of the Swan C.

      Also, I've got no bag for the rope.

      January 10, 2014

  • John G.

    I'll bring 20' of webbing and rapides.

    January 10, 2014

  • Gokul R.

    Anyone from Orange county to car pool?
    I am starting from Santa Ana downtown.
    text me[masked]-three-three-five - eight

    January 10, 2014

  • Klaus G.

    Have a blast guys! Glad the weather will be good!! K-

    January 9, 2014

  • Freddy

    Dress warm bring dry bags with extra dry warn clothes high temp is supposed to be 50

    January 7, 2014

  • Freddy

    Just so it's clear everyone knows we're meeting at the Stater Bros and then all driving up?

    1 · January 6, 2014

    • Peter J.

      I'm clear. Just planning on meeting up to carpool from Burbank, but official meet at 7am at Stater Bros in Redlands.

      January 6, 2014

  • Janeen

    Freddy can you please remove my name from the waiting list? I can't take it off and in case there's a cancellation.... Shoulder needs another 2 weeks to fully heal.

    January 6, 2014

  • Brian of the Swan C.

    Carpooling anyone? I live in Burbank and could fit myself plus three others with gear.

    2 · January 5, 2014

    • Peter J.

      Darn it, too late again... ;-) However, wondering if we can caravan? Where abouts in Burbank you heading out from? I could also carry a few folks if there's more people looking to carpool.

      January 6, 2014

    • Brian of the Swan C.

      I'm near the AAA on Alameda

      January 6, 2014

  • Jorge

    Hey Everyone! :D I'm really looking forward to this. My last canyon was was with Freddy and I had a blast! Does anyone live near the Culver City area or are on the way to Vivian? and would like to carpool? I can sit 4, maybe not so comfortable, but 3 yes.

    Hit me up if you're interested.

    January 6, 2014

  • Diana

    This will b my first canyon since my injury. I'm looking forward to getting back on the saddle. :)

    3 · January 5, 2014

  • Freddy

    I found a place for us to meet. It's at the Stater Bros Parking Lot. We will then drive up Orange St to the 38 which will take us right into the area we need to be.

    January 5, 2014

  • Freddy

    For those of you on the waitlist and wondering why I don't open this up is Vivian Creek requires a permit with a strict limit of 12 canyoneers.

    December 2, 2013

  • Ryan

    Ill bring a head light in case you change your mind

    November 15, 2013

  • Freddy

    If someone here wants to lend a hand with the permits-not sure if we'll need additional for BF since I have no experience w/ permits or costs, if any we can all chip in for them.

    September 19, 2013

    • John G.

      Permits are free and only one is needed for the wilderness area. You can fill out this form and fax in and they will mail or fax back. http://www.sgwa.org/P...­

      September 19, 2013

    • Freddy

      Awesome John thanks

      September 19, 2013

  • Diana

    Wetsuits will most likely be needed for Vivian that time of the year. :)

    September 18, 2013

    • Freddy

      John, you ran this one last year with John Caffery right?

      September 19, 2013

    • John G.

      Yes I've done this one with John Coffey four times. I've done Big Falls once approaching from Vivian and going cross country.

      1 · September 19, 2013

  • Freddy

    John Caffery lead this one last year here is the Beta for along with photo's: http://www.meetup.com/canyoneering/events/106342092/

    September 19, 2013

  • Ryan

    Can be done with a 200' rope an no pull cord

    September 18, 2013

    • Ryan

      I want to clarify that the first rap has to be done in 2 stages

      1 · September 18, 2013

    • Freddy

      I'm waiting to hear back from Alden for additional beta

      September 18, 2013

  • Jenny

    I can bring my 200' rope. ;)

    September 18, 2013

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