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Status regarding the Palestinians receiving full independent statehood

Gavin
Atheistic-ExJW
Beaverton, OR
Post #: 2,137
France has now publically stated they will vote in favor of the Palestinian statehood resolution at the UN this week. The vote is expected to take place on Thursday the 29th or possibly the next day. Here is one of many articles on the latest developments.

Now Norway, Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, Austria and Denmark have also said they will vote in favor of the Palestinian statehood resolution at the UN this week. See the news article called "Norway supports Palestinians at UN" for more information. The article called "Support grows for Palestinian status upgrade at UN" says "Germany said it would not vote in favour of the bid while Britain said it would abstain unless the Palestinians committed not to petition the ICC and pledged an immediate return to negotiations with Israel." Australia has said it will abstain.

Now even more European countries are rallying behind Palestines and others (including Germany) have dropped their oppostion. Ramifications of the UN vote on Palestinian statehood web page has an interesting news video regarding Palestine's statehood bid.
Gavin
Atheistic-ExJW
Beaverton, OR
Post #: 2,138
Fran­ce has now publically stated they will vote in favor of the Palestinian statehood resolution at the UN this week. The vote is expected to take place on Thursday the 29th or possibly the next day. Here is one of many articles on the latest developments.

Now Norway, Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, Austria and Denmark have also said they will vote in favor of the Palestinian statehood resolution at the UN this week. See the news article called "Norway supports Palestinians at UN" for more information. The article called "Support grows for Palestinian status upgrade at UN" says "Germany said it would not vote in favour of the bid while Britain said it would abstain unless the Palestinians committed not to petition the ICC and pledged an immediate return to negotiations with Israel." Australia has said it will abstain.

Now even more European countries are rallying behind Palestines and others (including Germany) have dropped their oppostion. Ramifications of the UN vote on Palestinian statehood web page has an interesting news video regarding Palestine's statehood bid.

History was made yesterday. Hurray! See the news article called "Palestinians Achieve ‘State’ Status at UN" for more information. It includes a video and a link to the transcript of President Abbas' speech at the UN General Assembly. A different news source revealed that 138 UN member states voted in favor of the Palestinian resolution, 41 abstained, and only 9 voted against (with Canada being the only major country to side with Israel and the USA in voting against the resolution). Since there are 193 UN member states I guess that means that 5 were not present for the vote or not qualified to vote (maybe they were behind in paying their membership dues).
Gavin
Atheistic-ExJW
Beaverton, OR
Post #: 2,151
Haaretz news article: Weeks ahead of elections, Palestinian officials say they plan to isolate Israel. The subtitle of the article is "A number of Palestinian officials say they are planning to take tough steps including filing war crimes charges against Israeli officials, staging West Bank demonstrations, and encouraging sanctions after elections in January."
Gavin
Atheistic-ExJW
Beaverton, OR
Post #: 2,154
The Times of Israel has a news article called "Abbas changes name of Palestinian Authority to ‘State of Palestine’". It says in part that "According to the decree, reported by the official Palestinian news agency Wafa Thursday night, all stamps, signs, and official letterheads will be changed to bear the new name." The article also says "The UN’s official list of all permanent missions in New York has since been updated to reflect the name change. It used to refer to the “Permanent Observer Mission of Palestine.” Now, the so-called Blue Book speaks of the “Permanent Observer Mission of the State of Palestine.” "
Gavin
Atheistic-ExJW
Beaverton, OR
Post #: 2,186
Another victory for Palestine:

News reports of today announce that Israel will release all of the Palestinians from prison who had been convicted by Israel prior to the signing of the Oslo Accords (see the news article called "Peace talks set to begin after Israel agrees to free 104 Palestinian prisoners" for details. The news article at Israeli-Palestinian peace talks to resume this week is very encouraging. One of the things it says is:

'Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat, who will be accompanied to Washington by Mohammed Ishtyeh, an Abbas aide, welcomed Israel's decision, which he said had come 14 years late. He pledged to work to free all prisoners held by Israel.

"This Israeli cabinet decision is an overdue step towards the implementation of the Sharm el-Sheikh agreement of 1999," he said in a statement. "We call on Israel to seize the opportunity ... to put an end to decades of occupation and exile and to start a new stage of justice, freedom and peace for Israel, Palestine and the rest of the region." '

Notice that Israel back in 1999 had already agreed to release the prisoners when Israel signed the Sharm el-Sheikh Memorandum and Israel is 14 years late in implementing that provision. The Israeli website at The Sharm el-Sheikh Memorandum on Implementation Timeline of contains the full text of that agreement and notice that it does say "3. Release of Prisoners [:] ... b. The Government of Israel shall release Palestinian and other prisoners who committed their offences prior to September 13, 1993, and were arrested prior to May 4, 1994. ...". If Israel had already kept all of their agreements with the PLO, then of how much closer Israel and Palestine would be to an end of the conflict and the state of Palestine being fully independent.

The prisoner release include Israel Arabs/Palestinians and Palestinians of Jerusalem. One article said this the first time that Israel has acknowledged the authority of the PLO to represent Israeli Palestinians!

Further the Reuters news article says "The 22-member cabinet also discussed legislation that would require a referendum on any statehood deal reached with the Palestinians involving a withdrawal from land Israel captured in the 1967 war. It will be sent for parliamentary debate shortly."

As a result of these developments and related developments, I now get the impression that the Israeli government is now beginning to take seriously reaching a final agreement with the Palestinians that includes the full independence of the State of Palestine and that such an agreement has a good chance of being reached while Obama is President and with Kerry playing the leading role in seeing that such an agreement takes place. If such is achieved, I think that Kerry has a very good chance of becoming the next USA President.
Gavin
Atheistic-ExJW
Beaverton, OR
Post #: 2,187
Another victory for Palestine:

News reports of today announce that Israel will release all of the Palestinians from prison who had been convicted by Israel prior to the signing of the Oslo Accords (see the news article called "Peace talks set to begin after Israel agrees to free 104 Palestinian prisoners" for details. The news article at Israeli-Palestinian peace talks to resume this week is very encouraging. One of the things it says is:

'Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat, who will be accompanied to Washington by Mohammed Ishtyeh, an Abbas aide, welcomed Israel's decision, which he said had come 14 years late. He pledged to work to free all prisoners held by Israel.

"This Israeli cabinet decision is an overdue step towards the implementation of the Sharm el-Sheikh agreement of 1999," he said in a statement. "We call on Israel to seize the opportunity ... to put an end to decades of occupation and exile and to start a new stage of justice, freedom and peace for Israel, Palestine and the rest of the region." '

Notice that Israel back in 1999 had already agreed to release the prisoners when Israel signed the Sharm el-Sheikh Memorandum and Israel is 14 years late in implementing that provision. The Israeli website at The Sharm el-Sheikh Memorandum on Implementation Timeline of contains the full text of that agreement and notice that it does say "3. Release of Prisoners [:] ... b. The Government of Israel shall release Palestinian and other prisoners who committed their offences prior to September 13, 1993, and were arrested prior to May 4, 1994. ...". If Israel had already kept all of their agreements with the PLO, then think of how much closer Israel and Palestine would be to an end of the conflict and the state of Palestine being fully independent.

The prisoner release include Israel Arabs/Palestinians and Palestinians of Jerusalem. One article said this the first time that Israel has acknowledged the authority of the PLO to represent Israeli Palestinians!

Further the Reuters news article says "The 22-member cabinet also discussed legislation that would require a referendum on any statehood deal reached with the Palestinians involving a withdrawal from land Israel captured in the 1967 war. It will be sent for parliamentary debate shortly."

As a result of these developments and related developments, I now get the impression that the Israeli government is now beginning to take seriously reaching a final agreement with the Palestinians that includes the full independence of the State of Palestine and that such an agreement has a good chance of being reached while Obama is President and with Kerry playing the leading role in seeing that such an agreement takes place. If such is achieved, I think that Kerry has a very good chance of becoming the next USA President.
An article called "East Jerusalem thorniest of issues ahead of peace talks" has some interesting ideas on how Jerusalem could become a shared unified city of both Israel and Palestine.
Gavin
Atheistic-ExJW
Beaverton, OR
Post #: 2,191
I am very impressed by the news video called "Kerry: ‘The time has come for a lasting peace’ in the Middle East". I am optimistic that a final status agreement will be achieved while Obama is President. I also now have the intuition that John Kerry will become the next USA President.

The news article called "Israeli, Palestinian negotiators set goal of peace deal in 9 months" also has good content.

The article called "Rubin: Why is John Kerry pushing Israeli-Palestinian peace talks?" is interesting.
Gavin
Atheistic-ExJW
Beaverton, OR
Post #: 2,195
I am very impressed by the news video called "Kerry: ‘The time has come for a lasting peace’ in the Middle East". I am optimistic that a final status agreement will be achieved while Obama is President. I also now have the intuition that John Kerry will become the next USA President.

The news article called "Israeli, Palestinian negotiators set goal of peace deal in 9 months" also has good content.

The article called "Rubin: Why is John Kerry pushing Israeli-Palestinian peace talks?" is interesting.
Update regarding Kerry becoming the next USA President. He might have enough time to campaign for a 2016 presidential election since it would greatly limit the number of years he can focus on doing his job of being Secretary of State.
Gavin
Atheistic-ExJW
Beaverton, OR
Post #: 2,196
Another victory for Palestine:

News reports of today announce that Israel will release all of the Palestinians from prison who had been convicted by Israel prior to the signing of the Oslo Accords (see the news article called "Peace talks set to begin after Israel agrees to free 104 Palestinian prisoners" for details. The news article at Israeli-Palestinian peace talks to resume this week is very encouraging. One of the things it says is:

'Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat, who will be accompanied to Washington by Mohammed Ishtyeh, an Abbas aide, welcomed Israel's decision, which he said had come 14 years late. He pledged to work to free all prisoners held by Israel.

"This Israeli cabinet decision is an overdue step towards the implementation of the Sharm el-Sheikh agreement of 1999," he said in a statement. "We call on Israel to seize the opportunity ... to put an end to decades of occupation and exile and to start a new stage of justice, freedom and peace for Israel, Palestine and the rest of the region." '

Notice that Israel back in 1999 had already agreed to release the prisoners when Israel signed the Sharm el-Sheikh Memorandum and Israel is 14 years late in implementing that provision. The Israeli website at The Sharm el-Sheikh Memorandum on Implementation Timeline of contains the full text of that agreement and notice that it does say "3. Release of Prisoners [:] ... b. The Government of Israel shall release Palestinian and other prisoners who committed their offences prior to September 13, 1993, and were arrested prior to May 4, 1994. ...". If Israel had already kept all of their agreements with the PLO, then think of how much closer Israel and Palestine would be to an end of the conflict and the state of Palestine being fully independent.

The prisoner release include Israel Arabs/Palestinians and Palestinians of Jerusalem. One article said this the first time that Israel has acknowledged the authority of the PLO to represent Israeli Palestinians!

Further the Reuters news article says "The 22-member cabinet also discussed legislation that would require a referendum on any statehood deal reached with the Palestinians involving a withdrawal from land Israel captured in the 1967 war. It will be sent for parliamentary debate shortly."

As a result of these developments and related developments, I now get the impression that the Israeli government is now beginning to take seriously reaching a final agreement with the Palestinians that includes the full independence of the State of Palestine and that such an agreement has a good chance of being reached while Obama is President and with Kerry playing the leading role in seeing that such an agreement takes place. If such is achieved, I think that Kerry has a very good chance of becoming the next USA President.
An article called "East Jerusalem thorniest of issues ahead of peace talks" has some interesting ideas on how Jerusalem could become a shared unified city of both Israel and Palestine.
The news article called "Palestinians worry about prisoner release" has more information about the prisoner release and about the Sharm el Sheikh agreement of 1999.
Gavin
Atheistic-ExJW
Beaverton, OR
Post #: 2,222
News article: "Palestinians submit official bid to join 15 international conventions; its subheading is "PA says Palestine wants to become signatory to treaties on apartheid and the laws of war; PA says it's because Israel won't free more prisoners."

This is great news for those who want to see the State of Palestine obtain justice. The news article lists all 15 conventions that Palestine has applied to. Cheers.
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