Forum: Film Screening and Discussion of " No Dinos in Heaven"

No Dinosaurs in Heaven is a film essay that examines the hijacking of science education by religious fundamentalists, threatening the separation of church and state and dangerously undermining scientific literacy. The documentary weaves together two strands: an examination of the problem posed by creationists who earn science education degrees only to advocate anti-scientific beliefs in the classroom; and a visually stunning raft trip down the Grand Canyon, led by Dr. Eugenie Scott, that debunks creationist explanations for its formation. These two strands expose the fallacies in the “debate,” manufactured by anti-science forces, that creationism is a valid scientific alternative to evolution.

Emmy Award-winning director (Before Stonewall,Paris Was a Woman) and science educator Greta Schiller uses her own experience — with a graduate school biology professor who refused to teach evolution — to expose the insidious effect that so-called “creationist science” has had on science education. No Dinosaurs in Heaven intelligently argues that public education must steadfastly resist the encroachment of religion in the form of anti-evolution creationism, and that science literacy is crucial to a healthy democracy.

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  • Dan C.

    I was asked to comment on the distinction between induction and revelation. Induction: to assert based on a collection of observations a proposition, most typically a generalization. Revelation: the act of making an a priori unknown known. That's about the best I could do...and it seems to me that the *better* accounts of reason and rationality blur the distinction between these two epistemological concepts...see, for instance, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Making-Explicit-Representing-Discursive-Commitment/dp/0674543300">; Making it Explicit </a>

    February 21, 2014

    • Dan C.

      First, let me say, I support the position sketched by John R. Platt in his essay "strong inference" in almost all attempts to answer questions. I think we should agree there. Second, spare me the rhetorical questions. The topic of induction/revelation was introduced as a result of my original lamentation (that got the ball rolling for the discussion) that the film "No Dino's in Heaven" had too light of a hand in treating the topics it discussed~the superiority of scientific methodology to other ways of knowing.

      February 23, 2014

    • Dan C.

      My motivation throughout this discussion has been and still is that the proposed way of thinking about scientific methodology, which resembles in my mind, logical positivism, is much more problematic and confusing than assumed, especially for neuroscience, a science of consciousness, and perhaps even ethics. I don't think we disagree there, but maybe we do? I have also striven to make the point that perceptual experience can serve in inferential processes and experimentation, which does not rule out "revelation" as a source of evidence. I think that's where we disagree. On a personal note, nothings ever been "reveled" to me, and I've never met anyone that convinced me that their "revelation"~i­f pursued using something like strong inference and earnestly~would result in an overthrow of some basic generalizations of physical science, i.e. Newton's law of gravitation.

      February 23, 2014

  • Amy Frushour K.

    I hit a pothole and blew a tire. Sorry to miss this great film!

    February 21, 2014

    • Chris M.

      I'm so sorry to hear that, Amy. They're terrible out there.

      February 21, 2014

    • Richard S.

      My car remains in the shop as we enter Week 3 since my pothole-related mishap, so I can well empathize. Sorry you couldn't make it; you were missed! See you Saturday evening!

      February 22, 2014

  • Jessica

    It was an interesting documentary and a great discussion afterwards. It was SO refreshing to be around so many like-minded, knowledgable individuals. Interesting discussion and points were well articulated.

    3 · February 21, 2014

  • Chris M.

    Having too much fun with my colleagues at SCCC faculty happy hour; will be late.

    February 21, 2014

  • Jessica

    do you need to be a member of this library or is this open to the public?

    February 12, 2014

    • Phil P.

      Hi Jessica. It's open to the public.

      February 12, 2014

    • Jessica

      great thanks

      February 12, 2014

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