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Transbelief Dialogue & Nature Walk 25 @ Longfellow Gardens, on "Native America"

Welcome to the Harvard Pluralism Project-recognized "transbelief reasoning dialogue" group, The Circle of Reason, and our local Minneapolis chapter's 25th Transbelief Dialogue & Nature Walk -- where we follow Aristotle's path of peripatetically discussing our differences. It's been called "Mindwalk + My Dinner with Andre!" This time, we'll meet at Minnehaha Creek's Longfellow Gardens! We'll stroll around Twin Cities nature-lovers' favorite "urban creek" and its flower garden, while hearing each other's perspectives and worldviews through reasoning dialogue. This Meetup is part of our group's recurring forum, The Dialogium, for facilitative, reasoning dialogue between FMCOR's very different folks!

For our Dialogium 25 along the paths of Longfellow Gardens and nearby Minnehaha Creek, we'll offer and discuss our individual perspectives on a topic suggested by an FMCOR member, to commemorate & memorialize the sesquicentiennial (150th) anniversary of the war between the Dakota Nation and the 4-year old State of Minnesota:

"Native America"

We'll Meetup at 2:00 p.m. Sunday, August 5 in front of Longfellow Gardens. Dress to hike for our mid-summer Nature Walk-and-Talk (Frank will bring bug spray, but predicts we won't need it because we'll be walking near only flowing water); on our Walk, we'll Talk on questions including these:

  • Was the first democratic government in modern times founded in America in 1776, as the United States? Or was it founded in the 1500's, as the Iroqouis Confederacy?
  • What Anglo perspective about Native Americans made "The Song of Hiawatha" by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow so popular in the late 1800s, but so reviled and ridiculed today?"
  • What was the true history of Hiawatha, Nokomis, and Minnehaha?
  • Were "Manifest Destiny," the "Indian Removal Act of 1830," and Native-American children's kidnapping for "missionary schooling" political necessities, or political conveniences?
  • Were the "Indian Wars," including Minnesota's own "Dakota War of 1862," started by Native Americans, or by the U.S. Government and Anglo settlers?
  • Were George Washington, Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln great U.S. Presidents, or genocidal leaders?
  • Since they were granted U.S. citizenship in 1924, what allowed the resurgence of many Native-American tribes?
  • Was the 1960's American Indian Movement (AIM), founded in Minneapolis, a terrorist organization deserving of its conflict with the FBI, or was it an organization for civil rights and Native-American self-determination?
  • Was the "Indian Gaming Regulatory Act of 1988" a force for good or ill in the Native-American Nations?

Don't miss FMCOR's Dialogium 25, to tell us how YOU see the history of Native America!

Logistics: Let us know when you RSVP if you want a carpool ride.

After our 2:00-4:00 p.m. Walk-n-Talk around Longfellow Gardens and nearby Minnehaha Creek, those who've worked up an appetite will visit Parkway Pizza at East 45th St x 42nd Ave South!

We've tried to schedule this FMCOR Meetup on a Sunday afternoon free from major Meetups by other groups in the secular and religious Meetup communities, so please encourage members of your other Meetup groups to consider attending our Nature Walk & Talk -- the more different we are, the more enlightening our conversation!

Hoping to see (and hear!) you at our Dialogium 25 on "Native America" -- so RSVP "Yes" today! And if you have any Native American relatives, friends or neighbors, bring 'em with!

(When you RSVP, please tell us: 1) If you want a carpool ride to and from our Meetup & Dinner; 2) If you need monetary assistance to attend our after-dinner; and 3) If you have suggestions for a question you'd like FMCOR to discuss at a later Dialogium.)

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  • A former member
    A former member

    Sorry I missed this! Looks like it was really cool. My only free days are weekends, so hopefully I'll be able to meet you all soon!

    August 30, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    The talking stick was great! The weather and gardens cooperated! The comments from the flock of ducks were qwacking us up. Can't wait for the next one topic to mull...

    August 6, 2012

  • Frank B.

    With the aid of the Talking Stick and one of our most socially deep topics, plus the lack of skeeters, the 75F sunny weather, the floral flora, the fancy fauna (incl. a green heron!) and our great political conversation at the after-dinner, this was hands down one of my personal favorite FMCOR meetups.

    August 5, 2012

  • sandra

    I don't know if I will make it tomorrow. I have training at work and am not sure when I will be done.

    August 4, 2012

    • Frank B.

      Sandra, we will likely begin our walk-n-talk at Longfellow Gardens, and may later walk upriver (upcreek) a bit on the SW side of the creek, before we retire at 4pm to Parkway Pizza.

      August 4, 2012

  • John C.

    You were clear to me Sandee. I took your question rhetoricly, in that we might inquire, if welcomed, to a person's background.

    A European might know that I am American but I would forgive him if he forgot I was Californian. Or if someone knew I had Irish roots but could not identify my family as originating in Kerry. And now out know more about me! You?

    August 2, 2012

  • M. J.

    I am curious as to why Sandee Jo does not want to ask people about their native heritage and cultural association? The Native American cultures (parsimoniously, the first people) live through our culture, just not in self-actualization. I would be more than happy to state why I take such a position. I would also argue, with great supportive evidence, that to recognize another person's native heritage is to recognize one's own cultural existence, while understanding and appreciating the differences and similarities of both cultures. Anthropology calls this cross-cultural analysis, or an Ethnography, and research was conducted in great detail about this very subject by such social anthropologists as Bronislaw Malinowski, Claude Levi-Strauss, and Napoleon Chagnon. Only 1 percent of high schools in the United States offer an anthropology course. Maybe this is a part of the problem?

    I'm looking forward to a lively and constructive conversation/argument. - Ohoda

    August 2, 2012

    • Frank B.

      If you can join us Sunday, Sandee Jo, feel free to speak for both sides! :)

      August 2, 2012

  • Frank B.

    For our walk-n-talk on Native America we'll be using a "Talking Stick," partly to honor a Native American tradition of allowing everyone to be heard without being talked over, and partly to respond to similar suggestions after our prior Transbelief Dialogue & Nature Walk on Transhumanism. (Don't worry, our Talking Stick uses no protected wolf fur or eagle feathers legal only for Native Americans. Instead, Eileen and I made ours with sheep wool and rooster & peacock feathers! But we did include colored beads common in historical talking sticks -- red for life, yellow for knowledge, blue for wisdom, white for spirit, purple for healing, orange for kinship, and black for clarity/focus/reason -- and our backyard honey locust stick did present itself to us!) Join our Walk-n-Talk this Sunday and check it out!

    August 2, 2012

  • Frank B.

    I myself prefer "First Tribes" or "First People" to conceptualize this continent's earliest permanent inhabitants, Sandee Jo, but defer to their own preferences; it's a good topic to bring up, thanks! Hope you can join us this Sunday!

    August 1, 2012

  • Frank B.

    On the 150thl anniversary of the Dakota War this year, it seems like a good time to discuss the topic of Native America and how Anglo- Americans have treated it! Join us at Longfellow Gardens!

    July 15, 2012

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