July Hike at Brecksville Reservation

Join us for a more rugged hike at Brecksville Reservation... we'll be taking the 4-mile Deer Lick Cave loop trail, with a side trip to down to Chippewa Creek where we might find a fossil or 2.

Please note- the Deer Lick Cave trail is rated moderate to difficult. Good hiking shoes are a must! The elevation gain is around 220 feet, not all that much but the trail may be steep in places. The trail passes by Deer Lick Cave, a place of historical interest:

"The cave consists of "Berea sandstone" that was formed about 350 million years ago during what geologists refer to as the "Mississipian period". Back then, northern Ohio was at the northeastern end of a large, shallow, inland ocean (giving a whole new meaning to the term "North Coast"!) Ancient rivers flowing into the ocean deposited sand (grains of quartz) along its edges in large quantities.

Over time, these layers of sand were compressed together and cemented into solid rock called Berea sandstone, an extremely durable rock that can be seen in many parts of northern Ohio today... Deer Lick Cave shows clear evidence of this ancient ocean."

Map of Brecksville Reservation HERE.

If the weather is wet on this day or in the days prior to the hike, we'll probably take the easier 2.5 mile Hemlock Loop instead.

A well-deserved meal at London Pickle Works following the hike... see you there :)

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  • Sam S.

    Quite wonderful. The day turned out perfect. There was plenty of shade to walk in. And as usual great conversation.

    July 9, 2012

  • Jim R.

    Went very well. Warm but breezy and at a wonderful park with plenty of beautiful scenery. Great like minded group as well.

    July 9, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    The weather was pleasant and so was the company. The trail was under canopy.
    I thought the trail deserved it's difficult rating, everyone else found it easy. Know Yourself!

    July 9, 2012

  • Mark T.

    Ok- Matt withdrew his last comment, and enough of this stuff. I never thought a hike could be so controversial :) My advice to those who haven't taken this trail before... take it! But be aware that it is long & has a lot of up & down, so prepare accordingly. As trails go in this area, I'd have to give the Deer Lick Loop an "A" for scenery & exercise value. I had never been to Brecksville Reservation beforehand- I'll be bock :) Kudos to Jim for bringing extra icy water to share... hit the spot!

    July 8, 2012

  • Mark T.

    The hike was lovely- most of it was under the woodland canopy. The trail is not too tough, but it does have a lot of up & down so I would rate it a solid moderate with a few difficult spots. We automatically separated into "slow" & "fast" sub-groups, which was fine. The "fasts" waited for us to arrive at our dinner spot before ordering food, which we "slows" very much appreciated. It was great to meet Vasanth, Samantha, Scott, and Matt!

    July 8, 2012

  • Shlomoh

    Well you offended a lot of people according to the messages. So is something wrong with us or are you really a young arrogant schmuck?

    July 8, 2012

  • Linas K M.

    Matt: Doubt anyone lost sleep over it lol.

    July 8, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    You can save your glib little not-pology. Others have done a far better job of clearly expressing their thinking than you have. And they managed to do it without being sanctimonious and smug.

    July 8, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Having been getting much sleep, overslept.

    July 8, 2012

  • Mark T.

    Hitting the Deer Lick Trail 12:30pm

    July 8, 2012

  • Linas K M.

    lol oh well - I made a mistake on the date - I knew today was better weather but we already have different plans.. Have fun everyone!

    July 8, 2012

  • Shlomoh

    I was going to meet you folks for dinner but I have a meeting to attend; this is a group to which I am commited once a month. have a good time and take it easy.

    July 8, 2012

  • Valerie

    Would love to go but I've got assignments to finish up for tomorrow. Hopefully you'll have one again in the fall.

    July 8, 2012

  • Mark T.

    James, don't worry- it's good advice! Everyone should most definitely bring enough water along, as well as some snack bars, etc. Thus far, all of our group hikes have been at a reasonable (sometimes ambling :) pace- and believe me, if it turns out to be too rough, those of us taking the Deer Lick trail can simply turn back & go for one of the easier trails.

    July 8, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    I have experience with heat exhaustion and heat stroke as a first responder and during time in the military. I want everyone to have fun. It is not fun when someone get sick or has a bad experience. All of this advice is boilerplate stuff if you've ever been in a hiking club: be safe, stay hydrated, hike within your abilities. This is the last I'll say. P.S. I deleted my snarky post addressed to Matt, if anyone wondered where it went.

    July 8, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    A four mile hike, assuming an average 2mph pace on level graded trail, plus time to stop and smell the roses, plus some time added for slower pace on sloped terrain, should take about three hours. Three hours outdoors in 80+ degree temps under moderate to strenuous exertion, figure about 2 quarts of water to stay hydrated. This all varies smewhat based on individual fitness. I know that freethinkers tend to bristle anytime someone tries to tell them to be careful, but...

    July 8, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    I just want to make sure I'm being clear, because it seems that some might be talking my statements the wrong way. I am in no way encouraging people to drop out of this hike or being critical of this hike as an event. Anyone who feels they are prepared and able to do this hike should definitely go and enjoy themselves. As a semi-regular hiker I made the assessment for myself that I don't feel comfortable with a hike of this type at this time. cont...

    July 8, 2012

  • NKC

    noaa.gov, our government web site:
    BRECKSVILLE OH
    A Few Clouds76°F
    Humidity77%
    Wind SpeedN 13 mph
    Barometer29.96 in [masked] mb)

    Last Update on 7 Jul 11:53 pm EDT

    A chance of showers and thunderstorms, mainly before 3am. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 69. North wind around 8 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.
    Sunday Mostly sunny, with a high near 85. North wind 9 to 13 mph.

    July 8, 2012

  • NKC

    Hi Linus, It's interesting how many temps you get on Cleveland forecasts, for any day. There are geological and human reasons for variation. Sunday is cooler and, as Mark says, We will be cooler under trees. I'm going for camaraderie as well as exercise and nourishment.

    July 7, 2012

  • Mark T.

    Hey wait a minute, Linas- the hike is tomorrow :) Weatherbug still calling for more reasonable temp tomorrow, high of 81. The Woodland Canopy will be our saviour.

    1 · July 7, 2012

  • Linas K M.

    Wow Matt - I was going to come with a 10 and a 12 year old on a day that registered 101 degrees already. Thanks to my calendar reminding me about a piano recital last night, we could not make it today but we would definitely have wanted a lazier route. A day like today is dangerous. Those remarks were totally uncalled for and I hope you can hold back from something like that next time!

    July 7, 2012

  • Mark T.

    NKC, technically yes- but it'll be difficult to rendezvous as Marni & I will be running around with some errands before heading out to Brecksville. The drive is pretty easy from the east side... I suggest 271 S to 480 W to 77 S to Rt. 82 E. Here is my cell # in case anyone needs it before the hike:[masked]

    July 7, 2012

  • NKC

    Mark, you got space to take a passenger?

    July 7, 2012

  • NKC

    Mark, Thanks for finding a gentler trail. You don't want spirits to lead a group heading off into the woods? What do you want of a human leader? Well, if someone says they'll do Hemlock with me, we can figure who is leading who. Else I'll stay inside.

    July 7, 2012

  • Mark T.

    @Matt, this group spans age 18 to 85 & you haven't met any of us yet. Your comment came off as snarky, but I'm assuming that you were trying to be a "devil's pitchfork" being as it that the meetup details clearly indicate a more rugged hike & there has been pushback in the comments. So it's settled- some of us will do the Deer Lick Loop & others will do the easier Hemlock Loop. Both trailheads are adjacent to the Nature Center. See y'all at the Nature Center (and parking lot) at Noon tomorrow!

    July 7, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    As to the hike: as I stated, I have hiked this trail multiple times, it is one of the more strenuous trails in the Metroparks. This is due to going up and down ridges multiple times. The trail is graded in a reasonable slope, and they have placed steps in some of the steepest parts. But doing this for four miles in the heat is harder than it sounds. People need to make a responsible decision based on a rational assessment of their own abilities, not be goaded into pushing themselves too hard.

    July 7, 2012

  • Shlomoh

    Oh? Are there arrogant jerks here? I hadn't noticed.

    July 7, 2012

  • Mark T.

    Praise be to the Woodland Canopy! :)

    1 · July 7, 2012

  • Mark T.

    Oy-oy! This review of the Deer Lick Trail from Cleveland Magazine sure sounds inviting: "The mostly woodland canopy makes this hilly path to Deer Lick Cave a nice trail for a hot day. But nothing can compare to the cool temperatures under the erosion-resistant Berea sandstone overhang. Pack a lunch and plan to chill here for awhile".

    July 7, 2012

  • Sharon W.

    This looks like a more serious hike, not a walk. I would vote for Hemlock, but it looks like the "cool" front they are calling for tomorrow is still going to be 85. If others are doing this again in nicer weather, I'm in!

    July 7, 2012

  • Sharon W.

    Wow - totally inappropriate, Matt.

    July 7, 2012

  • Mark T.

    As for the hike itself, NKC's suggestion would be fine as long as someone steps up to help keep the Hemlock group more or less together. As for those of us doing the 4 mile Deer Lick loop, it should be fine... high of 80 with 10 to 15mph breeze, not exactly Death Valley :) But yes, keep in mind that the Deer Lick trail is moderate to difficult & will involve some "cardio". WeCanDoIt! :)

    July 7, 2012

  • Shlomoh

    see you people at dinner :)

    July 7, 2012

  • Shlomoh

    why don't the philosophers just stop telling us how to live? I treat myself damn good by lying around, getting more fat, watching vids and eating my stomach full till it bursts -so there

    July 7, 2012

  • Mark T.

    Oy! :) Ok, I have made a reservation at London Pickle Works for 3:30pm. I made a guesstimate of 16 for dinner. Here is the address: 7265 Fitzwater Rd., Brecksville, Ohio 44141. The reservation is under "Mark". We hikers may trickle in a tad later than 3:30, but I think it'll be close to that.

    July 7, 2012

  • Shlomoh

    for people who say its too strenous, why don't you just stop complaining and have a heart attack

    1 · July 7, 2012

  • mardell

    The Pickle Works should have something for everyone..and is consistently good...

    July 7, 2012

  • matt

    here is a thoght for the free thinkers and the people who say it`s too strenuous or they need a slow pace hike,,,, treat your self better and get in to better shape because walking shouldn`t be a chore,,, its not how life treats you its how yopu treat yourself soo quit making excuses and being lazy.

    July 7, 2012

  • Shlomoh

    call me and rescue me from this dilemna

    July 7, 2012

  • Shlomoh

    I never got a respone from mark and marnie so I don't know

    July 7, 2012

  • NKC

    Anyone else want to do gentler hike at same location so as to join in day's exercise before noshing? How about the Hemlock or other suggestions, Mark?

    July 7, 2012

  • Mark T.

    Drat! They have good sandwiches, etc. there. Thanks for the heads-up, NKC. The London Pickle Works is nearby (http://www.londonpickleworks.com/), looks interesting & reasonable price. Also, if we head a couple of miles west on Rt. 82 there's the Boneyard and Cozumel (twist my arm for Mexican).

    July 7, 2012

  • NKC

    James, Thanks for opinion of the trail. Been wanting to do hike with this group. Sounds too much for me, too. Darn.

    July 6, 2012

  • NKC

    Followed that link. It says Simons is closed on Sunday. ?

    July 6, 2012

  • Sharon W.

    July 6, 2012

  • Mark T.

    Eeooops! Lol :)

    July 5, 2012

  • Linas K M.

    Turning "party" sunny sounds awesome!

    July 5, 2012

  • Mark T.

    Although the forecast is calling for a relatively cool 80 degrees, it might still be muggy as they're calling for 30% chance of rain on Sunday morn (turning party sunny). So we should take James' advice about bringing enough water along. If Sunday turns out to be more oven-like than expected, or if the Deer Lick trail is wet, we can take the less-intrepid Hemlock Loop trail instead.

    July 5, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Also, for those who might be unsure, there is a lovely interpretive trail and a wildflower trail that in the area of the nature center. Both are flat and level and worth the time. Could be an option if you aren't feeling up to the hike, but still want to participate. Sorry, gang... My Air Force safety-first mentality is hard to shake. ;-P

    July 3, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    I'm gonna have to back out. I've hiked this trail before, and it's a bit too strenuous for me right now. Especially with this hot weather. It's a beautiful hike, but I'm not up to it. At the risk of sounding like a mother hen, for those that are going, make sure to take plenty of water... and then double it. And make sure to actually drink it. You can get dehydrated pretty quick under exertion in this weather, and water you carry but don't drink isn't helping you. ;-P

    July 3, 2012

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