Re: [humanism-174] Manning

From: Hollis G.
Sent on: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:12 AM
How can this arse speak like this and still keep his tax exempt status?

richard <[address removed]> wrote:
Yes they do!!!!!! Cloudberry!
And it is in more church's then you can imagine!

Jennifer was surprised at the meeting to find out I was a atheist, but she also seemed to think I was in a small cult, not at all! Religions are cults! These types of preachers are everywhere in Christendom most know not to publicly spout such non-compromising stances as it is called, these are people who really try to take most of the bible literally and when they try to do that, pastor manning and my last pastor is what you get!

I describe in one of the meetups what started to happen to me when I tried to do the same, take all of the bible as facts to live by.

Those that use the bible as their criteria to base all of their life decisions on, become as such, but not usually are they so public about it, they are waiting for the time when they are stronger and then look out! They will not be the peaceful lamb!
< BR>But this will never happen, only in small groups can this type of fear based control go on unchecked, but they are many and have networks, the church I attended last as thousands of church's all across the globe and they admit that they want to take control of the world and there is no compromise!


Cloudberry <[address removed]> wrote:
Love the letter in the PD. Good going, Mark! About the video on
you-tube----do people really believe this stuff? His oration is
great---his words, utterly insane, to me. Making gravy from pigeon
droppings? Oh my, how he tries to scare people.

Mark Tiborsky wrote:
> Oh Man! I thought the video was satire at first. That guy is nuts.
> Reason #4,713 why I'm glad I'm not religious.
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:57 PM, richard <[address removed]
> > wrote:
>
> Who wouldn't disagree with what their church pastor might say at
> times?
>
> The only one who would agree with everything their pastor said
> would be those completely controlled by religious fear, but then
> they still disagree silently.
>
> Shows me that Obama is not afraid of the pastor of a church that
> he doesn't attend out of fear, and not as much as those who do
> fear. Obama to me seems like a liberal, nominal
> christian, but i could be wrong.
>
>
> This is a good example of a pastor who controls by fear and is so
> full of himself, which is what happens when you think you are
> really a mouth piece of God, I know! because this is what my last
> pastor was like, not exactly but close LOL!
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU&feature=related
>
>
>
> */Cliff <[address removed] >/*
> wrote:< /div>
>
> I'm pulling for you!
>
> Cliff
>
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> Hey all,
>
> The Plain Dealer published this letter today:
>
> /I am amazed at the fear and ignorance that still lurks in the
> hearts & minds of this supposedly free and secular nation./
> //
> /As an Atheist, I care not which set of "invisible friends"
> Barack Obama chooses to embrace. That is his choice, and only
> his. But the continuous, desperate smear campaign against Mr.
> Obama is helping to show America's "true colors"./
> //
> /First, the guilt-by-Muslim-association ploy; next, the
> guilt-by-association-with-abrasive preacher ploy; what will
> come next? Judging by the reactions I am hearing from
> so-called "mainstream" Americans, I am expecting the worst.
> Minds ruled by fear and ignorance soak this stuff up like
> sponges./
> //
> /May I remind each and every American that "no religious test
> shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or
> public trust under the United States." (Article VI of the U.S.
> Constitution)./
> //
> /Mark A. Tiborsky/
> /Richmond Heights/
> //
> No hate calls yet! (Just kidding).
>
> There were 3 other letters on the Obama/Rev. Wright topic, all
> differing perspectives- I thought all 3 were good letters.
>
> So I guess I've outed myself as an Atheist to all of greater
> Cleveland! I didn't really think about that when I sent the
> letter Saturday morning.
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