Re: [humanism-174] Fwd: Creationists, Too Dumb for Dr. Pepper

From: Tim C.
Sent on: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:40 AM
Do they just not get it or do they not want to get it?!  If someone does not wish to accept evolutionary theory as THE explanation for the diversity of life on this planet then you can talk about clades and cousins and common ancestors all day long and get little more than blank looks or cries of "bullshit. We CAN'T come from apes cuz there are still apes!"  Then all you can do is resist the impulse to hit them! lol
 
Tim
 
 
In a message dated 9/24/2012 8:48:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [address removed] writes:
That question is heard quite often. And even when you try to explain common ancestry to them, they still don't get it.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Tim Campbell <[address removed]> wrote:
This comes from a misunderstanding of evolution (sometimes caused by simple lack of knowledge; sometimes deliberate).  To many, evo is seen as a ladder, with each succeeding species taking over for and eliminating the ancestor species.  If the listener is willing to listen, then one can explain that evo CAN have this result, but evo should be viewed as more of a bush than a ladder.  If the speciation occurred because of geographical isolation of daughter populations, there is a good possibility that the daughter species may not ever have any physical contact at all with the ancestral species!  Think of the animals that became isolated on the island continent of Australia when contact between Australia and Africa was finalized.  Animals that were basically twins of each other went separate ways and over millions of years became entirely different animals!  Still related as very close cousins, but different in any event!
 
Tim Campbell
 
In a message dated 9/24/2012 9:26:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [address removed] writes:
I always get a kick out of people who make comments like:

“Lord Jesus pep can be blinded. If we came from apes why is there still apes [sic]”

Duh. It's like asking, if I came from my grandparents, how come my grandpa is still alive?  Of course when a species branches off from some group (often after it's isolated geographically or otherwise) there is no reason the first group (or certain species of it or it's descendents) cannot continue to survive and evolve too, each adapting to own niche. I can almost understand the misunderstanding from laymen who perhaps were not taught little if anything about evolution in school, but even some creationist leaders ask similar questions. Since the fallacy has been pointed out to them many times, at least some evidently do it knowingly.





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