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Re: [humanism-174] Republican Senate hopeful Richard Mourdock in rape row

From: Greg P.
Sent on: Friday, October 26, 2012 9:48 AM
So let me get this straight:

God abhors sexual violence, but if it happens (because of 
free will) god is just fine with using the opportunity to 
create a life that will be a constant, painful reminder to 
the victim?

My head's gonna 'splode.

-Greg

On Fri, 26 Oct[masked]:29:11 -0400
  sheri presloid <[address removed]> wrote:
> *It is about their god.  I love how he is answering for 
>his god too.
> First, he doesn't "think" god wants rape, then, he is 
>"absolutely
> confident" about his god's stance on rape.  WTF????*
> 
> 
> Still, Mourdock defended himself again Wednesday 
>morning, declaring in a
> press conference in Indiana, "I don't think God wants 
>rape."
> 
> "I believe life is precious. I believe that to the 
>marrow of my bones. I
> believe that life itself is the greatest gift that God 
>can give us,"
> Mourdock said, denying that he meant in any way that God 
>wants women
> assaulted.
> 
> "I absolutely abhor violence. I abhor any kind of sexual 
>violence. I abhor
> rape. And I am absolutely confident, as I stand here, 
>that the God that I
> worship abhors violence, abhors sexual violence, and 
>abhors rape," he said.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Tim Campbell 
><[address removed]> wrote:
> 
>> **
>> It isn't a pro-life stance though that is certainly part 
>>of the equation.
>> It really goes back to the Calvinist and even RCC ideas 
>>about
>> predestination, omniscience, and of course "God's Plan". 
>> The RCC has
>> opposed all methods of birth control except for 
>>abstinence and rhythm
>> because all else is an artificial attempt to thwart 
>>God's Will which would
>> of course upset "God's Plan.  The Calvinist view is that 
>>God knows
>> everything and has pre-planned everything--and I do mean 
>>EVERYTHING--­so
>> therefore, even a rape-induced pregnancy must by 
>>definition be part of
>> God's Plan and therefore the life that results is as 
>>sacred as that which
>> comes from two people in love and married and 
>>consenting!  Obviously, there
>> are logical contradictions and fatal flaws with this 
>>ideology, but that's
>> what these folks believe!!!
>>
>> Tim Campbell
>>
>> a message dated 10/25/2012 1:11:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight 
>>Time,
>> [address removed] writes:
>>
>>  I find the uproar over this rather interesting, as it 
>>exposes the
>> hypocritical, political maneuverings of the pro-life 
>>crowd. Mourdock's
>> stance is really the logical conclusion drawn from the 
>>pro-life assumption,
>> namely that a fetus is a human life as valid as any of 
>>the rest of us who
>> are walking around talking about this. If that's the 
>>assumption, than it
>> shouldn't matter where that life came from. I would love 
>>to hear so-called
>> moderate pro-lifers explain how rape or incest justifies 
>>murder. The fact
>> is that they need to make the rape or incest exception 
>>to have a chance
>> with women voters. But it doesn't follow logically from 
>>a pro-life stance.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>   10.
>>
>> *Subject:* Republican Senate hopeful Richard Mourdock in 
>>rape row
>>
>> *From:* sheri presloid
>>
>> *Date:* October 24,[masked]:25 AM
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