Re: [humanism-174] Who?

From: Chris K
Sent on: Sunday, November 4, 2012 4:11 PM
Man, I keep trying to find a candidate who espouses "biblical values" but I'm unable to. 

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Tim Campbell <[address removed]> wrote:
I agree here completely with Randy.  Especially the aspect of a right-wing Supreme Court justice tipping the scales irrevocably toward the right-wing theocratic extremism.  Anti-individual rights, anti-intellect, anti-reason, anti-science, you name it.
 
I've said this before and I'll say it again. While voting for "independent" candidates may feel good and may be wonderfully Quixotic, it's useless in practicality and if it at all results in a presidency that bows to the right wing zealots, then shame on you!  
 
Check out Section A of this morning's Plain Dealer for the FULL PAGE ad featuring "Reverend" Billy Graham, advocating voters to vote according to "biblical values".  If that does not scare you into leaving your "I'm an economic rebel" hat at home on Tuesday then shame shame shame on you!
 
Tim Campbell
 
In a message dated 11/4/2012 2:36:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [address removed] writes:
A vote for the libertarian candidate is a wasted vote in the practical sense. He hasn't a chance of winning this election. Vote your conscience but know that doing so will not produce the results you desire. 

Furthermore, what ails our economy can not and would not be fixed by the libertarian solution. The libertarian economic ideology is, IMO, a utopian view of how economics works, which is to say it does not match real world economics. But it doesn't matter since the libertarian candidate hasn't even the slightest chance to win. But every person who votes libertarian who might be inclined to vote Democratic instead just may be aiding to put Mitt Romney in the White House. And no matter how you slice and dice it, Romney's economic plan, I am convinced, will be a disaster for the nation, not to mention his views and plans where it concerns many social issues, civil rights issues, etc. And a Romney win will almost certainly result in an appointment to the U.S. Supreme Court that will shift this nation far to the right where it concerns many constitutional issues, especially concerning individual rights and First Amendment issues, including separation of Church and State. If you are concerned about a theocracy, you should be doing all you can to prevent a Romney win. Your best, conscience-driven, principle-motivated desires won't be worth even shit if Romney wins this election.

Randy


From: Mark R. Orel <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Sunday, November 4,[masked]:20 PM
Subject: Re: [humanism-174] Who?

Norm:

Welcome to the group.  And I agree the choice is clear,
Gary Johnson, the libertarian candidate.   Make a real
change.  


M. Orel
P.S.

I would have liked to have contributed to the
"What if Trayvon had died in a drone strike?"
thread, but we were without power for four days
and 16 hours. 


On[masked]:41, Norm wrote:
1-No president has been able to turn around the economy in four years. Fact.

2-The Republican Party has been taken over by religious extremists. Fact.

The choice seems very clear unless one wants our gov't to continue to move towards a Theocracy.







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