Re: [humanism-174] Religious Right reaching for Rolaids?

From: Greg P.
Sent on: Thursday, November 8, 2012 4:03 PM
It wasn't all great news on Tuesday. Sarah Fowler, the 
home-schooled creationist got herself elected to the Ohio 
State Board of Education. She beat a lawyer and a former 
NASA scientist, badly. 100k votes to 25k or 46k for the 
other two.

I'm stunned, especially at the wide margin.

-Greg

On Thu, 8 Nov[masked]:41:08 -0500
  Mark Tiborsky <[address removed]> wrote:
> Very interesting comment there- it seems like the 
>secular "movement", or
> whatever it is, is leaving its mark.
> 
> Yeah, it's hard to say... the beginnings of a 
>progressive shift, or just a
> blip?
> On Nov 8,[masked]:00 PM, "Greg Priddy" 
><[address removed]> wrote:
> 
>> I'm happy about this news, but not overly optimistic. 
>>Have we reached a
>> tipping point? I don't know. The electorate tends to be 
>>very fickle, and
>> swings back and forth.
>>
>> In 2008 things also looked pretty good right after the 
>>election, and then
>> the Tea Party came roaring in for the 2010 mid terms. 
>>The R's will
>> certainly be well prepared in 2014, but I hope they'll 
>>need to be selling
>> something better than they were in 2012.
>>
>> From the comments on the Religion Dispatches article:
>>
>> "I do think religion is going to have to submit to more 
>>rigorous,
>> evidentiary demands of public discourse, even though I 
>>don't trust science
>> to provide a reliable road map to social good.
>>
>> Part of we religious peoples' angst is that many of the 
>>things about the
>> world we've gotten away with simply asserting for 
>>generations are being
>> called into question and put to tests we're not ready or 
>>willing - frankly
>> - to pass."
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Nov[masked]:19:47 -0500
>>  Mark Tiborsky <[address removed]> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow- it's becoming clear that this was a great election 
>>>for social
>>> progressives. Amendments in favor of equality for gay 
>>>American­s pass in 3
>>> states (first time by popular vote), and amendments to 
>>>ban fail in at
>>> least
>>> one state (Minnesota). Measures to repeal "Obamacare" 
>>>and another to grant
>>> special privileges to religious groups fail in 
>>>Florida.­..
>>>
>>> Two states vote to legalize pot for recreational use. 
>>>Wisconsi­n voters
>>> have
>>> elected the nation's first openly gay U.S. Senator, 
>>>Tammy Baldwin.
>>>
>>> http://m.jsonline...­-**
>>> progress-for-gay-pol­iticians-**and-issue­s-9m7i4vu-177746301.­**html<http://m.jsonline...;­
>>>
>>> ...Who also professes no religion :) Meanwhile, nut 
>>>Michelle­ Bachmann
>>> narrowly kept her seat, but a good handful of the worst
>>> conservative/religio­us nuts went down in flames- 
>>>includin­g the "legitimate
>>> rape/god's gift" twins, Akin and Mourdock, and the 
>>>ridiculo­us Rep. Allen
>>> West of Florida.
>>>
>>> And all the goofy God talk & posturing didn't seem to 
>>>have much effect...
>>> Anthea Butler of Religion Dispatches writes that "fake 
>>>God talk doesn't
>>> cut
>>> it with Americans", but I think maybe it goes beyond. Is 
>>>the Religious
>>> Right truly losing its influence over the American 
>>>populace­ in general?
>>>
>>> http://www.religi...­**
>>> 6597/election_takeaw­ay%3A_**fake_god_tal­k_doesn%E2%80%99t_**­
>>> cut_it_with_american­s/<http://www.religi...;­
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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