It wasn't all great news on Tuesday. Sarah Fowler, the
home-schooled creationist got herself elected to the Ohio
State Board of Education. She beat a lawyer and a former
NASA scientist, badly. 100k votes to 25k or 46k for the
I'm stunned, especially at the wide margin.
On Thu, 8 Nov[masked]:41:08 -0500
Mark Tiborsky <[address removed]> wrote:
> Very interesting comment there- it seems like the
>secular "movement", or
> whatever it is, is leaving its mark.
> Yeah, it's hard to say... the beginnings of a
>progressive shift, or just a
> On Nov 8,[masked]:00 PM, "Greg Priddy"
><[address removed]> wrote:
>> I'm happy about this news, but not overly optimistic.
>>Have we reached a
>> tipping point? I don't know. The electorate tends to be
>>very fickle, and
>> swings back and forth.
>> In 2008 things also looked pretty good right after the
>>election, and then
>> the Tea Party came roaring in for the 2010 mid terms.
>>The R's will
>> certainly be well prepared in 2014, but I hope they'll
>>need to be selling
>> something better than they were in 2012.
>> From the comments on the Religion Dispatches article:
>> "I do think religion is going to have to submit to more
>> evidentiary demands of public discourse, even though I
>>don't trust science
>> to provide a reliable road map to social good.
>> Part of we religious peoples' angst is that many of the
>>things about the
>> world we've gotten away with simply asserting for
>>generations are being
>> called into question and put to tests we're not ready or
>>willing - frankly
>> - to pass."
>> On Thu, 8 Nov[masked]:19:47 -0500
>> Mark Tiborsky <[address removed]> wrote:
>>> Wow- it's becoming clear that this was a great election
>>> progressives. Amendments in favor of equality for gay
>>>Americans pass in 3
>>> states (first time by popular vote), and amendments to
>>>ban fail in at
>>> one state (Minnesota). Measures to repeal "Obamacare"
>>>and another to grant
>>> special privileges to religious groups fail in
>>> Two states vote to legalize pot for recreational use.
>>> elected the nation's first openly gay U.S. Senator,
>>> ...Who also professes no religion :) Meanwhile, nut
>>> narrowly kept her seat, but a good handful of the worst
>>> conservative/religious nuts went down in flames-
>>>including the "legitimate
>>> rape/god's gift" twins, Akin and Mourdock, and the
>>>ridiculous Rep. Allen
>>> West of Florida.
>>> And all the goofy God talk & posturing didn't seem to
>>>have much effect...
>>> Anthea Butler of Religion Dispatches writes that "fake
>>>God talk doesn't
>>> it with Americans", but I think maybe it goes beyond. Is
>>> Right truly losing its influence over the American
>>>populace in general?
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