RE: [humanism-174] Religion & Politics

From: Marni T.
Sent on: Friday, July 13, 2007 7:34 PM
Hey everybody - Mark and Marni here - 

What dates are you guys available for the August meetup? We have our eye on
Wednesday, August 15th, in the evening. We need to know exactly where y'all
are so that we can find a central location. There's been such great dialogue
going back and forth that we really want to get this group together in
person - we will rock the house! :) 

Please let us know. Thanks! 

M&M

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From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of
ken
Sent: Friday, July 13,[masked]:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [humanism-174] Religion & Politics


Mark,

Every time you open your mouth you become a cooler guy.  I agree with
everything you said, except about mushrooms.  We should talk politics
some time.  I don't feel like arguing about mushrooms.

ken

On 07/13/[masked]:40 AM somebody named Marni Tiborsky wrote:
> Hi everybody, Mark T. again-
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> Here's a good reason why Freethinkers, Humanists, Atheists, Agnostics,
> and even free-thinking Theists should "band together". (see pic, if not
> visible now.)
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> Well, first of all, rest assured that Rosemary, or any other religious
> person who attends one of our meetups, will not be "ganged up on". After
> all, peace, love & understanding is the key to a beautiful world, is it
> not? But there is a fine line- as you all know, simply doubting the
> beliefs of many religious people= blasphemy to them. If someone becomes
> angry or feels insulted just because the rest of us doubt or reject
> their beliefs, then it's THEIR problem. Extreme narrow-mindedness is our
> antithesis. but anyone who wishes to attend a Cleveland Freethinkers
> Meetup will be fully welcomed.
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> Religion & Politics- ah, just think how many of Humanity's problems,
> throughout history, could have been avoided if people had actually sat
> down together & TALKED about religion & politics, instead of arguing &
> fighting..
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> So here goes me.. I recently thought of a new label for myself. I'm a
> 95%-ter. That means 95% Atheist/ Agnostic. My beliefs have not really
> changed since I was a child. Both my parents were basically
> Freethinkers, but nothing was ever drummed into my head. For the most
> part, I seem to have formed my own Universe-view based on reason,
> experience, and logic. I feel good about that! If I had to choose a
> standard label for myself (though the value of labels is dubious), I
> would choose Freethinker.
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>  The remaining 5% is confusing. It bothers me to think that there is not
> at least "a force of good" in the Universe. It also very much bothers me
> to think that NOTHING is watching over my Loved Ones when I'm not there
> to watch over them. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, or maybe I do have
> a tiny thread of belief, I don't know. But I do know that the "5%
> thread" is NOT there because of fear of going to hell or anything stupid
> like that.
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> Politically, I'm way off the left end of the spectrum. "Radical Liberal"
> might be a good description, with certain Libertarian tendencies.  The
> ONLY accordance I have with hard-line Righties is the tough-on-crime
> thing.. Violent crime? Mandatory 20 years if I was King of the U.S.!
> Theft? That'd get ya 10. Caught with a little pot? No problem- it'd be
> legal!
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> I hate the Bush/Cheney regime & all their cronies. I now mistrust the
> Democrats. I hate the Iraq "war". I hate how our government is now under
> corporate control. I hate the Patriot act. I hate mushrooms. I like
garlic.
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