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Re: [humanism-174] Some more hatin' on X-mas

From: TC3
Sent on: Saturday, December 8, 2012 2:19 AM
I always say I'll watch football and other stadium sports, when they bring back the lions. We've always say "yay" and "hooray" every cycle rotation orbit and whatever. It's important that we celebrate each other during this part of the cycle. It's both funny and unfortunate when the word solstice brings on a sneer from a person.
For ironic Christ's sake people, our literal bodies are literally tuned by the lunar calendar. Giving during this season, scaring during last season and the others are part of our biorhythms. Aren't they? We've got to exhale what something inhales in order to not fucking die. What on Earth does a bunny with eggs have to bla bla bla. Fertility REBIRTH of the SUN in SPRING duh, 
telephone1000 years into our freaking saviour.
ChristMass Eve when the SUN DIES until next year.
You'd think it would be obvious, but it's called the American DREAM because you'd have to be asleep to experience it (hypnosis)
and it's not really football that name was plagiarized. . . 

What could we do better than the previous or invent from ourselves?

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Matt <[address removed]> wrote:
I'm not saying that it's not good. Certainly people are trying to help others. And, yes, it's a choice to participate. But we've created and continue to perpetuate a holiday that glorifies consumerism and belittles those who don't participate. So of course economically stressed families want to provide a Christmas for their kids just as much as any other family does. But is it wise to celebrate a holiday that puts so much unneeded economic stress (besides other kinds of stress) on people?
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Scott Spalding <[address removed]> wrote:
Why can't the action simply be good? As far as I understand, the families involved on both sides of the program are there by choice. If they did the program respectful, then why can they just simply not participate?

It seems to remind me a bit of the "free ice cream" argument.


On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Matt <[address removed]> wrote:
Also, the idea of "adopting" a family seems to imply that the parent(s) of said family are somewhat less than adult and need to be taken on by responsible (i.e., moneyed) adults who can care for them until they're able to grow up and start buying presents again themselves. These programs are certainly a way to treat the unintended consequences of our all-pervasive, countrywide December party. But they also seem to be a way for the Christmas nuts to feel okay about trumpeting their consumerist holiday from every street corner, shopping center, office and school.

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