Re: Re: [humanism-174] In "Garlic Man" We Trust :)

From: Sam S.
Sent on: Saturday, January 5, 2013 9:58 PM
A nice sciency conversation. Can someone please explain to me how in the double slit particle photon experiment, the photon particles act differently when they are observed. I understand that it happens. But I don't understand how it happens or what it means to the future of quantum physics.

On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Tim Campbell <[address removed]> wrote:
Not even in the ballpark tc3. Illusion due to natural properties of light and the capabilities of our eyes. Not hallucination.




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Subject: Re: [humanism-174] In "Garlic Man" We Trust :)

The sky isn't really blue. Color itself is a hallucination. LSD is a naturally occurring brain chemical. I'm not projecting. We're all hallucinating reality all the time.


On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Randy Pelton <[address removed]> wrote:
"It is a fact that when you look at something, it changes because you looked at it."

Bullshit. This is not true. You have taken an idea from quantum theory about something that happens at the quantum level and extrapolated it, incorrectly, to the macroscopic world. You evidently have a misunderstanding of quantum theory and what it says about natural phenomena. What you have said here is no different than the New Age nonsense that Deepak Chopra so idiotically spouts. I suggest you read up on quantum theory before you make any further statements based on principles from quantum theory about how things work in the universe. You apparently have no idea how incredibly foolish the above statement makes you look to persons who actually know something about quantum theory and its relationship to the natural world.

"We're all experiencing the universe only through different hallucination interpretations."

Horseshit. Perhaps you are in some constant hallucinogenic state. But don't project your delusions onto the rest of us. This statement is made without any offer of evidence that it is true.

Randy


From: TC3 <[address removed]>
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Sent: Saturday, January 5,[masked]:57 PM

Subject: Re: [humanism-174] In "Garlic Man" We Trust :)

I don't have an imaginary fence. I have a dragon in my imaginary garage. lol


On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 6:27 PM, sheri presloid <[address removed]> wrote:
If your dog can stay with in your imaginary fence, you win.
On Jan 5,[masked]:19 PM, "TC3" <[address removed]> wrote:
What about just a connection to each other? like cells in an organism are individuals but connected. we know em fields exist and wireless transfer of data exists, it's just when we say aura or tele whatever there's a sort of dogmatic judgmental interpretation expected. We're all experiencing the same universe only through different hallucination interpretations. It is a fact that when you look at something, it changes because you looked at it. What literally happens when for example, thousands of individuals observe the same thing at the same time? If a particle can be in more than one place in time then can data also be? I think it's only a matter of making small enough antennas.


On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Tim Campbell <[address removed]> wrote:
That would demonstrate either telekinetic powers or a connection to supernatural beings.  Or a trick.
Tim Campbell
 
In a message dated 1/5/[masked]:56:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [address removed] writes:
What if the spiritual person consistently has the fences built, seemingly as a result of their thoughts?


On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:23 PM, sheri presloid <[address removed]> wrote:
Research has suggested "spiritual" people may suffer worse mental health than conventionally religious, agnostic or atheist people. 

My thoughts on this are as follows (tongue in cheek examples):

Spiritual people think in their heads that a fence will be built if they wish it so.  Since they are "thinking" it and not "saying" it,  it won't be built since no one heard them.

Religious people pray out loud and possibly tell everyone in their congregation that they hope "god" helps them get that fence up in the Spring time. It comes through because the congregation heard their fellow worshiper needs help with a fence and they all pulled through to make it happen (but that person KNOWS it was "god" that made it happen and not the people of the congregation).

The Agnostic and Atheist people will make phone calls, search the internet and find the best (cheapest) way to get that fence up.  They call their friends and family and ask for some help from them in return for pizza and beer.  The fence is done.

That was probably not the best example, but I am sure I got my point across. ha




On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Mark Tiborsky <[address removed]> wrote:
"Spiritual but not religious"- a term that can imply adherence to nonsense, but not necessarily so as this author shows-




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