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Re: [humanism-174] Darwin wrong, but no god either?

From: Randy P.
Sent on: Friday, February 8, 2013 1:42 PM
I have not read the book, nor am I a philosopher. But I am going to go out a limb here and suggest that if Nagel is dismissing modern scientific understanding of the material universe, and this would include evolution, using philosophical arguments then whatever claim he may have had in the past to a sharp and insightful mind is no longer. It's all about evidence. The evidence amassed to date in physics, chemistry, biology, and all the other science disciplines for our current understanding of the natural world is strong, robust and unassailable by philosophical arguments alone. Nature is at it is despite the attempts by some philosophers to say otherwise. Science, not philosophy, is the best process and contains the best set of tools for revealing the nature of the material universe. I don't take seriously the pronouncements of philosophers when they attempt with philosophical arguments alone to tell us how the material universe is. If this is what Nagel is doing then I dismiss him with the rebuttal: "It's about the evidence you fool!"

Randy


From: Mark Tiborsky <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Friday, February 8,[masked]:48 AM
Subject: [humanism-174] Darwin wrong, but no god either?

Philosopher Thomas Nagel's book, "Mind and Cosmos" touts a "new way of science" based on "natural teleology"- the wankers at the intelligent design-promoting Discovery Institute love it, while on-the-level scientists fume:
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/02/07/books/thomas-nagel-is-praised-by-creationists.xml




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