Re: [humanism-174] Insist That People Coexisted With Dinosaurs?and Get an A in Science Class!

From: Joanna
Sent on: Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:38 PM
Maybe this will open the door for such debates to happen? For the record, I'm not condoning the legislation; I know what they're aiming at. I just wonder how thoroughly they have considered the consequences, such as, as you say, opening up religion for real debate in the classroom.  They should be praising their Jesus that a public school teacher can do little more than present the scientific information and defer them to their spiritual leaders for religious information.  Can you imagine what they would do if a teacher threw down and debunked religion in the classroom?  Yikes. They truly don't know how good they have it.  Of course, in these states where they are pushing such legislation, I have a feeling the number of teachers who don't believe the same voo-doo are very few.  Those poor kids! Our poor society!
 


 

 

 

In Loving Memory of SSG Edward W. Carman
Nov. 1976-Apr.2004 - US Army, 2/12 Cavalry




From: Mark Tiborsky <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Thu, February 21,[masked]:15:10 PM
Subject: Re: [humanism-174] Insist That People Coexisted With Dinosaurs?and Get an A in Science Class!

Sorry- not VA it is TN, and that one has already been signed into law!

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013/02/state_of_the_un069091.html

And the MS legislation:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/17/mississippi-bills-could-lead-to-prayer-in-schools/

On Feb 21,[masked]:39 AM, "Mark Tiborsky" <[address removed]> wrote:

And voila! The OK legislature has supplied us with something to "complain" about :)

This is the goddites' new angle. Similar legislation is being considered in VA and MS, although the MS legislation is more directly aimed at just plain "getting god back in schools" (perfect for a state that teaches abstinence-only & has the highest teen pregnancy rate in the nation!).

I looked at the bill, such bullcrap. If there was true "academic & religious freedom", then the very existence of God would be openly debated in our public schools & the dogmas of religion critiqued. This is a kowtow to religious privilege, not freedom.

On Feb 21,[masked]:12 AM, "Joanna" <[address removed]> wrote:
Well, it's a good thing that teachers don't penalize "students who turn in papers attempting to debunk almost universally accepted scientific theories..." just because they turn in such papers. They penalize them for having inadequate evidence to support their assertions.

"A student has the freedom to write a paper that points out that highly complex life may not be explained by chance mutations."

Absolutely! But if they cannot provide an appropriate level of evidence in a scientific context to support their alternate hypotheses, then they deserve to fail. On the flipside, if they are challenging certain aspects and they provide facts to support their challenge, then give them an A+++! 

I don't think we should ever discourage youths from challenging any bit of knowledge, but we should make sure that they are learning how to appropriate make and support that challenge. NOTE: I didn't read the bill, so I'll just have to trust the MJ reporter provided a fair interpretation.
 


 

 

 

In Loving Memory of SSG Edward W. Carman
Nov. 1976-Apr.2004 - US Army, 2/12 Cavalry




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Sent: Thu, February 21,[masked]:52:02 AM
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