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Re: [humanism-174] "The Bible" on History Channel

From: Tim C.
Sent on: Monday, March 4, 2013 5:00 PM
Seems like an overly harsh assessment of Jews as well as Judaism. 
We DO owe to Judaism religions of exclusion and religion-based war and religion-based massacre, but tribalism and warfare and massacres certainly existed well before Judaism added their particular god to the mix.
 
We also owe to Judaism Stephen Spielberg, Albert Einstein, and a disproportionate share of the world's scientists, artists, and humanitarians.
 
I would not single out Judaism, but I do agree that Christianity and Islam came out of Judaism.  However, those two refined the art of tribalism to a degree several powers above that contributed by Judaism.
 
And yeah, I never heard of all non-Jews being considered "the devil". 
 
Tim Campbell
 
In a message dated 3/4/2013 4:34:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [address removed] writes:
I consider myself a feminist.  Maybe you're using a different definition.

And in all my years on earth I don't recall ever hearing a Jew say that all non-Jews are the devil. 

Chris


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On Mar 4, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Heathen Gliebe <[address removed]> wrote:

> Focusing on the Old Testament aka JUDAISM is EXACTLY what everyone should be focusing on.
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> Every corrupt, degenerate, stupid ideology we have today stems from Judaism...!!!
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> Like Communism, Zionism, Feminism, Racism, Christ-insanity, Islam, etc.,
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> Judaism is the ROOT of the problem. You are only swatting at weeds when you attack Christianity and Islam.
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> Talk about the sickest, vile CRAP ever... If you want HATE speech? Read some of the 36-39 volumes of the Talmud. At least Christ-Insanity has a bad guy or "devil" ... The devil in Judaism is ALL NON JEWS!!!!!
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> Silly Goyim!! (unclean Gentile sub-human cattle!)
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> www.ultragod.com
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> On Mar 4, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Glen <[address removed]> wrote:
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>> Mike wrote:   
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>> "Since Christianity has been ascendent in the West since Constantine , even though it evolved from Judaism; and, since the New Testament is taken by Christians as superseding the Old; why not focus your criticism on the New rather than the Old?  Focusing on the God of the Old Testament seems like the wrong target because either God has evolved (Unlikely.), or, the believer's understanding of God has...
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>> First, I don't focus on just the old Testament. There are plenty of problems and inconsistencies in the NT also that I and others have pointed out before. Second, many Christians themselves don't accept that God or their religion has "evolved." Many if not most insist that God never changes, that the OT is still relevant and valid, and point to comments by Jesus supporting that, etc. Many also base their young-earth creationist beliefs on a literal reading of Genesis.  At the same time many ignore the most troublesome passages in the OT, like the ones I mentioned. Likewise, most praise the 10 commandments but only heed certain ones, and largely ignore the prescribed penalties for breaking them (or say in contradiction to their other claims, that the penalties no longer apply).   
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