Re: [humanism-174] Creationist stakes $10,000 on contest between Bible and ev...

From: Greg P.
Sent on: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:07 AM
But, but, but, evolved life forms are so complicated that 
there must be some entity guiding the process. As Billo 
would say "you can't explain that." ;-)

As an aside, I heard on the radio this morning that the 
Discovery Institute is getting into the act of writing 
laws to "protect" teachers who want to "teach the 
controversy" regarding climate change.

On Wed, 27 Mar[masked]:57:12 -0400
  Tim Campbell <[address removed]> wrote:
> I'll be reviewing a new book that just came out by 
>Robert Price and Edwin  
> Suominen titled EVOLVING OUT OF EDEN--Christian 
>responses to Evolution.   
> Covers this same territory.  The so-called religious 
>moderates accept the  
> idea of evolution, and its attendant NATURAL processes, 
>but want to have it 
> both  ways: a natural process being supervised/assisted 
>by a supernatural  
> entity.  The question is not so much whether the process 
>is intended or  
> emergent, but if a natural process works fine, why would 
>the supernatural be  
> needed at all?
> 
> Tim Campbell
> 
> 
> In a message dated 3/27/[masked]:57:57 A.M. Eastern 
>Daylight Time,  
> [address removed] writes:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I fully intended to be facetious with a bit of truth 
>mixed in.   Implying 
> this topic is a closed book. We KNOW evolution happens. 
>We KNOW we  are all 
> related. The question is whether our evolution was 
>intended or  emergent.
> 
> I've seen desperate fundies use tonality over facts. 
> 'oh so, , ,  Youu say 
> and Youu think" bla bla 
> _https://www.youtub...­ 
> (https://www.youtub...­) 
> 
> Their  next desperation move will have to be aliens were 
>their god all 
> along. It's  already in movies. The Day The Earth Stood 
>Still 'in our image' 
> being from the  heavens compared to Jesus hero figure
> 
> Goku in Dragon Ball Z fits the same description. 
> 
> _https://www.youtub...­ 
> (https://www.youtub...­) 
> 
> 
> 
> Some of them insist their type of human came from the 
>stars and  the rest 
> evolved here and are still cavemen. What's more likely 
>is they never  learned 
> to use their TPJ and still think everyone is a 
>convincing robot.  
> 
> _https://www.youtub...­ 
> (https://www.youtub...­) 
> 
> 
>For the money on a string contest, tell them the reason 
>they are  required 
> to get a flue shot every year is because of the 
>"Evolutionists"  invading 
> their drug stores with science pamphlets. It's 
>technically true.  Maybe we can 
> start a wave of fundamentalists flue shot  boycotts!
> 
> 
> So um, giraffes have this nerve in their necks, and 
> it's like double long 
> or whatever, therefor Jesus. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Sam Salerno 
><[address removed]_ 
> (mailto:[address removed]) > wrote:
> 
> 
> Of coarse I was talking about the guy who's  posing the 
>challenge. I 
> understood TC3's point completely. However, I could 
> have pointed out that the 
> challenge is not going to be held by a regular  court, 
>according to the 
> article. Which leads me to believe that there will  be 
>some christian bias in the 
> challenge. Therefore, I went with have fun  disproving 
>radiometric dating. 
> Sorry for misleading you Randy. Ahhh, the  English 
>language is so delicate.  
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Randy Pelton 
><[address removed]_ 
> (mailto:[address removed]) > wrote:
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> 
> 
> I hope you are right Linas. But the context  in which 
>Sam made the comment 
> led me to conclude he was referring to TC3  and not the 
>moron who proposed 
> the challenge. However, if I am wrong I  gladly stand 
>corrected. Only Sam can 
> clear up whatever misunderstanding,  if any, I have 
>here.
> 
> 
> Randy
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> From: Linas K Muliolis  <[address removed]_ 
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> To: [address removed]_ 
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 26,[masked]:19 PM   
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> Subject: Re:  [humanism-174] Creationist stakes $10,000 
>on contest between 
> Bible and  evolution
> 
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> Randy,  
> 
> 
> Why are you accusing him of calling TC3 a douchebag?  I 
>think  Sam is 
> referring to the guy proposing the challenge! 
> 
> 
> :)
> 
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> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Randy Pelton 
><[address removed]_ 
> (mailto:[address removed]) > wrote:
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> Sam,
> 
> 
> Why  are you calling him a douchebag? I think TC3 is 
>making the point that  
> the evolution side will win and collect the $10,000, 
>hence TC3's  reference 
> to the Kitzmiller v. Dover case and link to the page on 
>the  National 
> Center for Science Education website describing 10 court 
>cases  in which 
> evolution prevailed over creationism.
> 
> 
> Randy
> 
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>  
> ____________________­________________
> From: Sam Salerno <[address removed]_ 
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> To: [address removed]_ 
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 26,[masked]:19  PM
> Subject: Re:  [humanism-174] Creationist stakes $10,000 
>on contest between 
> Bible and  evolution
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> Good luck disproving radiometric  dating douchebag.
> 
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2013, TC3 <[address removed]_ 
> (mailto:[address removed]) > wrote:
>>  2005 Kitzmiller vs. Dover
>>
>> Where do we collect our  $10,000 ?
>>
>> 
> _http://ncse.com/t...­ 
> (http://ncse.com/t...­) 
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>>  On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM, sheri presloid 
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> _http://www.guardi...­ 
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>>>  Really????  Can't wait to see him lose his 
>>> $10,000.....
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