Re: [humanism-174] Margaret Doughty, Atheist Seeking U.S. Citizenship, Told To Join Church Or Be Denied

From: Randy P.
Sent on: Friday, June 21, 2013 3:50 PM
Great news. But it should not be left to end here. There needs to be an effort to make sure that the agency changes its procedures and policy to make certain this does not happen again. There needs to be language in their policy that specifically states that conscientious objector status does not and should not be tied solely to religious convictions. I realize that the FFRF pointed out in a letter to the agency a string of Supreme Court decisions that clearly showed the agency was in error. But without a rewrite of their operating rules and the policy, what is to prevent someone in the agency from repeating this mistake at some future date, years after this incident has been forgotten.


From: Mark Tiborsky <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Friday, June 21,[masked]:03 PM
Subject: Re: [humanism-174] Margaret Doughty, Atheist Seeking U.S. Citizenship, Told To Join Church Or Be Denied

The USCIS removed their ridiculous demand, and Ms. Doughty will be granted her citizenship:
On Jun 20,[masked]:21 PM, "sheri presloid" <[address removed]> wrote:
Well said, Randy!  Thanks for the info!


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Randy Pelton <[address removed]> wrote:
If you didn't notice there was a link in the story to a petition you can sign to the USCIS supporting citizenship for Doughty. It is the link to a Daily Kos site. More than 5700 people have already signed the petition. It includes a function that allows you to add your own comments.  

Here is the petition you can sign. This version includes my comments added at the end in boldface:

Dear USCIS Director Alejandro Mayorkas, Deputy DHS Director Jane Holl Lute and DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano:

We urge you to accept Margaret Doughty’s—and all other applications in a similar position—moral objection without religious justification.

Conscientious objectors who had moral (but not religious) reasons for not joining the military were found to be unlawfully discriminated against, as in Welsh v. United States. Likewise, requiring anyone who applies for U.S. citizenship to provide proof of their religion is a blatant violation of the First Amendment’s Establishment clause.

The U.S. Constitution specifically prohibits any religious test to hold public office. By what tortured logic can you hold that citizenship, however, should be subject to a religious test, which essentially is what is being done in this case. Why should a requirement that is prohibited as a test for public office be permitted for determination of citizenship. We don't require this similar test for those born here. So why should it be a requirement for those born elsewhere and then choose to become citizens of this country. We are not a christian nation. Abandon this absurd and unconstitutional requirement. Grant citizenship to Margaret Doughty. To bar her citizenship for the reason now being used is simply not in keeping with American values and principles.




From: Mark Tiborsky <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Thursday, June 20,[masked]:06 AM
Subject: Re: [humanism-174] Margaret Doughty, Atheist Seeking U.S. Citizenship, Told To Join Church Or Be Denied

I have a feeling the USCIS will back down on this, but if not, go FFRF and AHA!
On Jun 20,[masked]:09 AM, "sheri presloid" <[address removed]> wrote:




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