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Re: Re: Re: Re: [humanism-174] better memory

From: Vinay C.
Sent on: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:43 AM
The problem with someone being Republican is the fact that he/she is voting for those people who seem to be obsessed with including religion in our laws.  Yes, they keep talking about smaller government....government small enough to fit in a uterus and in a gay person's personal life.  Yet, I don't see any fiscal policy coming out that seems to benefit the country as a whole.  Our infrastructure sucks, because the U.S. House is more worried about restricting abortions instead of focusing on the business of the country: the Economics!  I'm so sick of that nonsense!

So pardon me as a gay man for not appreciating Republicans who keep John Boehner (Boner) as speaker!


From: Gary <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25,[masked]:22 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [humanism-174] better memory

  It was a long time ago, Sam, before you were in the group.  All water under the bridge.
  Point is that this is an anti-theist support group.  Science, logic, evidence, and chuch/state issues are what we all generally agree upon.  And while the GOP is hopelessly ridiculous on these issues, some here identify themselves as Republicans for other reasons (smaller/cheaper/more efficient government, job creation, national security...).  Whether or not the GOP is better able to achieve these goals than the Democrats is debatable; however, some believe that they are.  While the Republican PARTY deserves scorn on science and religious issues, (I'm guessing that) Republican PEOPLE in this group don't appreciate being lumped in with some of the crazies that run their party.  Though not a Republican myself, I decided that this wasn't the right forum to have respectful economic discussions.
  I don't have a list of names of those drummed out, but this group has never taken kindly to dissent.  Some were trolls, but some (it seems to me) were searchers, possibly teenagers, just trying to figure shit out.  If you "don't suffer fools", simply don't respond.  Let someone else with some patience and understanding guide the searchers and kill the trolls with kindness.  Should be the same technique for both.
Sam wrote:
I honestly don't remember anyone using any negatively witty anti-Democratic remarks. And I personally have not been offended by any ones political statements. Maybe I missed something.

On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Mark Tiborsky <[address removed]> wrote:

Hey, wait a minute- I realize that through the years I have sometimes been absent from the forum for 3 or 4 days at a time. But in general I have "caught up" with the activity, and I honestly don't remember you being treated in a vile manner. I remember you calling some of us "Comrades", but I don't remember anyone being offended by your implying that we were communists :) There was one on the forum who was capable of vileness towards other members, but that person has been out of the group for some time.

Who was "drummed out"?
On Jun 24,[masked]:31 PM, "Gary" <[address removed]> wrote:

  I once made a joke here about the group's Democrat-leaning bias a while back, complete with a whistful smiley-face emoticon  :)

  Boy, did they tear me a new one.  And not in a constructive, thoughtful, evidence-based, point-counterpoint fashion.  Lots of vile, hateful name-calling.  And I'm more Democrat than Republican.
  Everyone wants to dish it out, but no one wants to take it.  I don't want to take it, so I stopped dishing it out.  And since I agree with 99% of the religious, science, and social-issue comments here, I stopped altogether.  I like the group and the forum and love to read the church/state and science articles, but this just isn't the place for respectful economic political discussion.

  And since then, they've drummed out a number of others.  Some deservedly so, due to their manner; however, some simply disagreed, questioned, weren't as fully-formed, or weren't as far along the path to atheism as the rest of us.  Rather than win these people over and help guide them down the path, they bullied them right out the door...with an unflattering story to tell their friends about atheists.

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