Re: [humanism-174] Science and Theories

From: user 3.
Sent on: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:07 AM
Well Said!

---- ken <[address removed]> wrote: 
> 
> Michael,
> 
> I wasn't addressing the validity of Charles' statements.  In fact, I
> don't even disagree with them.  My point concerned how an argument
> should be addressed.  Since no one seems to be getting that, and since
> it's a minor point, it doesn't seem worth talking about anymore.
> 
> On 08/09/[masked]:48 PM somebody named Michael wrote:
> > Todd and Ken,
> > 
> > I consider Charles' criticism to be valid for three reasons;
> > 
> >     * One, the statement, "I do not believe in evolution." is an
> >       assertion.  It requires the person saying it to have at the very
> >       least an understanding of what Evolution entails, what role it
> >       plays in both society, religion, and science, as well as knowing
> >       the ramifications of making such a statement.  Making such an
> >       assertion challenges the viewpoint of anyone who does believe in
> >       the Theory of Evolution, and does not exempt the individual from
> >       being challenged in kind.
> > 
> >     * Two, the Theory of Evolution is the culmination of centuries of
> >       the scientific efforts to piece together the great biological,
> >       geographic, astronomical, and paleological mysteries of our planet
> >       into a (if not simple and gratifying explanation) comprehensive
> >       theory on how we and everything around us got here.  To not
> >       "believe" in the Theory, it is expected that a rational minded
> >       person must have a reason for not believing.  I, and I believe
> >       Charles as well, expect that any person who doubts or disbelieves
> >       in Evolution would do so for a far greater reason than their own
> >       religious inclinations.
> > 
> >     * Three, we live in a society in which the debate over the teaching
> >       of Evolution is dominated by scientifically retarded religious
> >       zealots; people who are so inured in their own dogmas they
> >       willingly corrupt the very definition and methods of science to
> >       support their beliefs.  It is no stretch of the imagination to
> >       predict the catastrophic effect their success would have on
> >       science and rational thought in this nation.  I will argue that
> >       the very nature of science demands any person disbelieving in the
> >       Theory should have solid explanation for doing so.  We do not have
> >       the luxury of passively ignoring that belief when the
> >       repercussions are so great.
> > 
> > 
> > Now, with all that said, I should say that their is a distinction
> > between ones belief or lack thereof in Evolution, and the many in which
> > they live their lives.  I do not for on second assert that any person
> > can be defined as either good or bad, moral or immoral, compassionate or
> > heartless, or intelligent or stupid.  The Theory plays a minor role in
> > the lives of most people, regardless of their belief in it. 
> > 
> > What I do believe is that the Theory of Evolution should be treated with
> > the same respect, dignity, and understanding as any theological belief
> > of creation demands.
> > 
> > Michael
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