Re: [humanism-174] Abortion: Murder, Compassion, or Convenience?

From: Marian
Sent on: Friday, June 19, 2009 11:07 AM
Mother Nature herself, (god) has no trouble killing babies.�� Looking at all the miscarriages which occur, many of which are defective fetuses,��which could imply that god herself takes care of the job frequently.
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I have more respect for a woman who has an abortion after an accidental or unplanned pregnancy than one who simply says, oh well, what can I do, and then has a baby she doesn't really want and/or is ill-prepared to care for.�� Being pregnant when you don't want to be is horrible, and the proactive thing to do is to stop it.�� Women are much more empowered by getting an abortion than just letting��what has happened to them continue.�� As far as saying that��adoption is the only answer, this would put women in the position of having babies for others who cannot.�� This is a form of slavery that we do not want to get into.�� A good read on this is A Handmaid's Tale.��
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A mistake should not be punishable by a 20 year sentence.
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Marian
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Michael <[address removed]> wrote:
What I don't understand is this concept of life begins at birth. Their stupid bible says NOTHING about this. There's actually a great debate about this on John Loftus's website Debunking Christianity. (He's the former evangelical minister) I think that you should all check out
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From: Ginger
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Subject: Re: [humanism-174] Abortion: Murder, Compassion, or Convenience?
Sent: Jun 19,[masked]:38 AM


I think relying on abortion as a primary source of birth control is stupid, but not immoral. If you think it is immoral, please explain why.

As for convenience you are implying that if a person finds having a baby "inconvenient" that they are not making the decision out of compassion to the baby. I argue yes they are, in addition to convenience to themselves, which must be part of the equation.

All in all, I don't find any moral problem with abortion for any reason with or without apology. If the embryo/fetus is far along that it may feel pain, administer pain relief. If something has no sense of future, then I don't feel it's morally wrong to kill it.

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, MichaelV <[address removed]> wrote:

> From: MichaelV <[address removed]>
> Subject: Re: [humanism-174] Abortion: Murder, Compassion, or Convenience?
> To: [address removed]
> Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 10:06 AM
> Not to pry too deeply, but I
> assume you do use at least one form of birth control when
> necessary?��
>
> And I think that the convenience factor must necessarily be
> distinct from the compassion factor: I used that term like
> many pro-lifers tend to use it: as a pejorative.
>
> Michael




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