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Re: [humanism-174] Objectivism

From: user 9.
Sent on: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:15 PM
I was always inspired by the Howard Roark character. Sometimes in life you have to ignore the crowd and the opinions of others but in doing so you have to carry alot within especially if you run against the grain. We unconsciously seek approval as human beings and going alone can be a dangerous endeavor unless you develop a certain self centering. I agree with you that the "superman" is unrealistic but sometimes its good to be a play actor to your ideals....Randall  ps what painting did you want to use for your CD?
---- Mark Tiborsky <[address removed]> wrote: 
> I see another huge conflict in her philosophy itself- the supremacy of the
> individual is in there, also the glorification of Man being triumphant over
> Nature. But the individual does not, of course, triumph over nature (we die,
> nature "wins").
> 
> I should probably revisit that book, and read it at face value as a novel.
> The person who gave it to me to read (25 years ago) urged me to try and
> absorb the philosophy within it.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Randall Tiedman
> <[address removed]>wrote:
> 
> > Michael, Im hardly an expert on Ayn Rand but I would suggest reading her
> > novel "The Fountainhead" which will give you a better sense of her ideas
> > than any summation I could give. Despite her placing reason above all else
> > her personal  life was filled with contradictions that violated her own
> > epistemology. Aside from that its a terrifc novel!   Randall
> > ---- MichaelV <[address removed]> wrote:
> > > I am listening to a podcast right now in which a self professed
> > Objectivist describes a moment in which Ayn Rand stand up on one leg and
> > describes her philosophy as: "Objectivism is the concept of man as a heroic
> > being, with his own sense of happiness and moral purpose in his life, with
> > productive achievements as his noblest activity and reason as his only
> > absolute.".  I haven't been able to find the video, but I do have a question
> > for anyone interested.
> > >
> > > What exactly is Objectivism?  What does the philosophy entail, and does
> > the above quote properly represent it?  Is the philosophy consistent with
> > the ideas of the Libertarian philosophy?  I have never been overly fond of
> > Rand; I ound her work to be rambling and imprecise, which is the primary
> > reason I never looked into it that deeply.  However, I have noticed that
> > there is a growing segment of the electorate that perscribes to the Rand
> > philosophies, particularly Libertarians, and asuming the Republican party
> > continues to self destruct, it may be the case that it 4-12 years we have a
> > significant Libertatrian presence in our government, something I do not at
> > all agree with in principle but would not be at all troubled with if it were
> > to happen.  Any information you have would be appreciated, and I will gladly
> > take responses in private or in our forum if you so desire.
> > >
> > > Michael
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