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Re: [humanism-174] Re: Objectivism

From: Mark T.
Sent on: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:59 AM
Philosophy, or propaganda? Pretty lady, or android? From the Ayn Rand Institute:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Josh <[address removed]> wrote:
"But a case could be made that Objectivism is a form of atheism
without the freethought" - Mark

That's exactly how I feel. I have a strong dislike for Objectivism,
for many of the reasons mentioned.

For those of you that have been here a while and remember the piece I
wrote a year or so ago on free market capitalism as religion
much of it was a veiled attack on Objectivist philosophy, especially
my criticism of Greenspan. For the same reasons I tend to take an
almost hostile stand toward die hard Ron Paul supporters, as Paul is
also admittedly a huge Rand fan and proponent of objectivist

Rand was a smart lady, and I think she milked the WWII ant-communist
sentiment as much as she could in order to make herself a star. It's a
shame people today still can't see that's it's nothing more than that.

As somewhat of an altruist myself, I disagree greatly with much of her
philosophy, down to the basics. I think it was Mikkel that said that
the independence of existence and reality is an axiom of philosophy,
which is true. Philosophy does not debate this, but rather questions
how the two interact, a point that Rand completely misses. A debate on
the existence of reality is pointless without a perception of that

Rand's describes her famous "Axiom of Identity" with the quote "A leaf
cannot be both all red and all green at the same time." My response to
the objectivist is to take that leaf, red or green, to a colorblind
person and ask them if it is all red or all green.

Josh 1

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