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I sign petitions every day, I don't share them too often, but please sign this one! - https://secure3.convio.net/cfr­r/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&­page=UserAction&id=297 Linas K M. May 3, 2015 12:35 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - It isn't that YOU failed, Stephanie. It was the impossibility of the task! Tim Tim C. May 3, 2015 12:28 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Stephanie May 3, 2015 11:59 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Tiny quibble andrew. Current age estimate is the 13.8by! Tim Sent Tim C. May 3, 2015 11:41 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Good comment Andrew and I think that you are also right, Stephanie. However while I have seen Craig and other theists and apologists try to use Tim C. May 3, 2015 11:41 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Sorry to go back a ways, but for me the Kalam fails right at statement #1.  Never mind that we can't state "everything that has a beginning of its existence has a cause of its existence" as a fact, as far as I know nothing Andrew S. May 3, 2015 9:09 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Laryngeal Nerve of a Giraffe. I need some help here, smart ones. - Of course, quite apart from the excellent debunking above, that fails to explain why said nerve does the same thing in all tetrapods, including humans, who don't have the blood-pressure drinking problem.  The nerve also follows a simil Andrew S. May 3, 2015 8:52 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Stephanie: Some people in this group just don't have much of a sense of humo Mark R. O. May 3, 2015 1:02 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Tim C. May 2, 2015 9:07 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Tim C. May 2, 2015 9:02 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - I'll respond one sentence at a time. 1. Yes, I did say that. It remains unanswered. 2. I don't know that there isn't a god. 3. No. Disbelief in a proposition that has no evidence for it does not require Sean May 2, 2015 8:49 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Laryngeal Nerve of a Giraffe. I need some help here, smart ones. - This is exactly what she said: Susan H. May 2, 2015 8:40 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Stephanie May 2, 2015 8:36 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Tim C. May 2, 2015 8:34 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Laryngeal Nerve of a Giraffe. I need some help here, smart ones. - Thanks. Exactly. No mention of the laryngeal nerve somehow stopping or slowing the heart. I don't know what she has been reading, and she hasn't posted any links yet. She said that Susan H. May 2, 2015 8:18 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - "Why do I have to add all possibilities to my statement?" Because you just freaking said that the universe encompasses ALL things. On May 2,[masked]:28 PM, "Stephanie" < Sean May 2, 2015 8:10 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Mark-O, That sort of philosophical skepticism is a useless concept. If you aim a hammer at your thumb and swing it hard, do you not "know" that you will hit your thumb with a hammer? O Mark T. May 2, 2015 8:06 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Laryngeal Nerve of a Giraffe. I need some help here, smart ones. - Stephanie May 2, 2015 7:19 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Laryngeal Nerve of a Giraffe. I need some help here, smart ones. - Sorry, I was away. Thanks, Chris for the link. Sue, this person doesn't believe in creation. Her assertion is that Dawkins, who she doesn't seem to like, misled people about the role of Susan H. May 2, 2015 6:52 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - The only fact I know is the fact that I know nothing.  Mark O. Mark R. O. May 2, 2015 6:22 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - I never said different.  Mark O. Mark R. O. May 2, 2015 6:06 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Mark speaks from authority on this! Sent from my Chris K May 2, 2015 5:58 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Stephanie May 2, 2015 5:40 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Now that's just out and out funny. And you're not alone as nobody else here has the slightest idea what they are talking Mark R. O. May 2, 2015 5:28 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Stephanie May 2, 2015 5:28 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Stephanie May 2, 2015 5:22 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Personally, I think it falls apart at step 1. How can you demonstrate that the universe encompasses all things? This implies that nothing exists which is not in our universe. How on earth can anyone go about proving that? There could be any n Sean May 2, 2015 5:15 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Are you five years old? If so then offering your own theory of cosmology and the universe was a precious effort. Potentially brilliant. If you are an a Tim C. May 2, 2015 5:10 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Stephanie May 2, 2015 4:32 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - One creates literature but invents the characters in that literature. A created thing exists; an invented character does not! Philos Tim C. May 2, 2015 4:10 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Stephanie May 2, 2015 3:57 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - I do also agree with mark orel that things definitely break down at 11. An unsupported and at this time untestable truth claim. How do we know or even conclu Tim C. May 2, 2015 3:40 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - I think the logic starts to break down at #4. We just do not have an evidence-based or universally accepted definition of "God". What #4 is positing is a def Tim C. May 2, 2015 3:32 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Just keep in mind critical thinking is informal logic.  Formal logic a.k.a. symbolic Mark R. O. May 2, 2015 2:56 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Stephanie May 2, 2015 2:37 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - I am really sorry that I don't have time to break down your "Cosmological Concept", it Mark R. O. May 2, 2015 2:26 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Stephanie May 2, 2015 2:21 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Well, I can at least agree that your Cosmological Concept makes about as much sense as Kalam. On May 2,[masked]:45 PM, "Stephanie" < [address removed] > wrote: Sean May 2, 2015 2:04 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Stephanie May 2, 2015 1:45 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Laryngeal Nerve of a Giraffe. I need some help here, smart ones. - Stephanie May 2, 2015 1:05 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Losing Friends cuz I'm "Lost" - Preview not available Colleen G. May 2, 2015 12:57 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Laryngeal Nerve of a Giraffe. I need some help here, smart ones. - Stephanie May 2, 2015 12:54 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Tim C. May 2, 2015 12:26 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Laryngeal Nerve of a Giraffe. I need some help here, smart ones. - Thanks, Chris. I had been wondering about that, too, s Sue B. May 2, 2015 12:12 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - You are right on Stephanie. Because the cosmos had a beginn Sam S. May 2, 2015 11:58 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Laryngeal Nerve of a Giraffe. I need some help here, smart ones. - The reason you haven't seen that explanation at all is because it's only found on creationist websites. Here's the laryngeal nerve page from rationalwiki: Chris K May 2, 2015 11:28 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - 4 & 5 are problematic. Chris Sent from my Chris K May 2, 2015 11:11 AM
Laryngeal Nerve of a Giraffe. I need some help here, smart ones. - I need some help here. Dawkins had a short youtube video where they showed a giraffe being dissected (or whate Susan H. May 2, 2015 10:37 AM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Stephanie May 2, 2015 10:25 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - I remember when I first became 100% Atheist. I couldn’t s Sam S. May 2, 2015 9:45 AM
About the church in the woods... - I live down the street from there. Sick about it. What concerns me at the moment is that since the trees were clear cut what, 3 weeks ago now, there has been zero activity there. Nothing moving forward. Unless I a Maude May 2, 2015 6:01 AM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Anything by Matt Dillahunty is very good. On May 1,[masked]:21 PM, "Stephanie" < [address removed] > wrote: Sean May 1, 2015 9:40 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Stephanie May 1, 2015 9:21 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Stephanie May 1, 2015 9:16 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Losing Friends cuz I'm "Lost" - Hi Colleen, I understand some of what you are going through. I was one of Jehovah's Witnesses, and leaving means I am shunned as a matter of loyalty, not individual choice. It's a lot of Susan H. May 1, 2015 8:25 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - I like this one:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?­v=hn0tPRjVBvw I love Cristina Rad - here's a good one:   Linas K M. May 1, 2015 7:55 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Hitchens vs Frank Turek Sent from my Chris K May 1, 2015 7:41 PM
Addicted to YouTube Athiest vs Religion Debtates - Stephanie May 1, 2015 7:37 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Losing Friends cuz I'm "Lost" - Preview not available Sue B. May 1, 2015 7:36 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Losing Friends cuz I'm "Lost" - My best friend Mike got baptised in February. He was really nervous about asking me if I wanted to be there. I told him that of course I would. I don't agree with it, but it was very important to him, and that meant it was important that Sean May 1, 2015 5:31 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Losing Friends cuz I'm "Lost" - I believe that is true- they quit us not us quitting them. See everyone at the hike! Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2015, at 4: Colleen G. May 1, 2015 5:23 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Losing Friends cuz I'm "Lost" - Colleen, thank you for sharing this. What Sean said. And also - many good solid friendships have been forged by people who have participated in this group's activities, so I hope you can retain a bunch of your "save Mark T. May 1, 2015 4:55 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Losing Friends cuz I'm "Lost" - They are just scared. I think down deep they know reason makes sense and faith in the Flying Spaghetti Monster makes no sense. If they don't believ Colleen G. May 1, 2015 4:38 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Losing Friends cuz I'm "Lost" - Colleen, I'm sorry for what you experienced as a believer and for what you're currently going through now. It upsets me that the people who constantly try to tell atheists that they have no moral framework are the sa Sean May 1, 2015 3:58 PM
Losing Friends cuz I'm "Lost" - Preview not available Colleen G. May 1, 2015 2:50 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Defiant Egyptians - It is amazing how you hear atheists say that they do not want religious people to change, but rather to understand that those who are NOT religious deserve the same rights and respect. Yet, when you talk to a religious pe sheri p. May 1, 2015 12:20 PM
Defiant Egyptians - Egyptian nonbelievers launch an internet TV channel - http://m.voanews.com/a/defying­-taboo-middle-east-atheists-la­unc Mark T. May 1, 2015 11:50 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Church in the Woods - Parma Heights - Yeah, it is sad.  There were four red hawk nests too (per the comments sourcing from other sources). I will finish this string of emails with this pic: sheri p. May 1, 2015 8:53 AM
RE: [humanism-174] Church in the Woods - Parma Heights - Thanks, Sheri, for finding that. So it seems the Sue B. May 1, 2015 8:49 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Church in the Woods - Parma Heights - After reading your email, Sue, I found this and agree with this resident: http://blog.cleveland.com/lett­ sheri p. May 1, 2015 8:29 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Action Alert! Support ‘National Day of Reason’ proposal in Congress - But a lot of what this is about is educating the public abo Sam S. Apr 30, 2015 5:32 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Church in the Woods - Parma Heights - I miss the "wooded beauty",too, and I often wonder who reall Sue B. Apr 30, 2015 5:31 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Fwd: Action Alert! Support ‘National Day of Reason’ proposal in Congress - I love the idea and support it and will sign anything.  But I think in 2015 it still has a snowflakes chance in...  uhmmm...   a fireplace? Still a voice is heard... Linas K M. Apr 30, 2015 5:01 PM
Fwd: Action Alert! Support ‘National Day of Reason’ proposal in Congress - We hold our National Day of Prayer peaceful protest every year for just this reason (pun intended!). Hopefully we will have FFRF nontracts to hand out as we stand along the outer edge of Mall C next Thursday! If you're s Marni T. Apr 30, 2015 4:54 PM
Church in the Woods - Parma Heights - http://www.cleveland.com/parma­/index.ssf/2014/12/after_parma­_heights_approves_c.html I drive by Church in the Woods ev sheri p. Apr 30, 2015 4:07 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Some good news from the Vatican - Wow!  At first, I thought your subject line, "Some good news from the Vatican" was going to be a story about priests getting castrated (joking). But, I must say, this is a Win-Win no matter what!!!  If the Koc sheri p. Apr 30, 2015 3:37 PM
Some good news from the Vatican - http://ourfuture.org/20150430/­the-kochs-cant-buy-the-pope?ut­m_source=progressive_breakfast­& Linas K M. Apr 30, 2015 2:51 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Messenger closes in on Mercury crash-landing - Great article, thanks Sheri! The article on "comet splatters" at the bottom of the page is interesting as well. On Apr 30,[masked]:57 AM, "sheri presloid" < Mark T. Apr 30, 2015 12:28 PM
Messenger closes in on Mercury crash-landing - GOOD-BYE MESSENGER! Sniffle.... http://www.bbc.com/news/scienc­e-environment-32510911 sheri p. Apr 30, 2015 10:57 AM
'Miracles From Heaven': Near-Fatal Fall Cures Sick Little Girl's Symptoms - http://insider.foxnews.com/201­5/04/14/miracles-heaven-near-f­atal-fall-cures-sick-little-gi­rls-symptoms sheri p. Apr 30, 2015 10:56 AM
Re: [humanism-174] New clue to life's origins? - This is excellent evidence of an environment where molecular elements fuse together to form carbon based molecules. Now if they could just replicat Sam S. Apr 30, 2015 9:12 AM
New clue to life's origins? - http://www.sciencedaily.com/re­leases/2015/04/150427101635.ht­m Mark T. Apr 29, 2015 2:26 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Indonesia drugs prisoners have final moments with family - Honestly, I'd have more sympathy for those who DID do the drugs than those who tried to make money off the misery of those who were doing the drugs.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of killing people for smuggling either, but Andrew S. Apr 28, 2015 4:41 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Indonesia drugs prisoners have final moments with family - Yeah, I saw that.  Horribly sad.  I remember watching the TV show, Locked Up Abroad http://channel.nationalgeograp­hic.com/locked-up-abroad/ sheri p. Apr 28, 2015 4:32 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Fwd: Justices divided on same-sex marriage in oral arguments - Tim C. Apr 28, 2015 4:15 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Indonesia drugs prisoners have final moments with family - According to the latest articles, 8 of them were executed. Mary Jane Veloso of the Philippines was issued a stay. On Apr 28,[masked]:47 AM, "sheri presloid" < sher Mark T. Apr 28, 2015 3:59 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Fwd: Justices divided on same-sex marriage in oral arguments - Why is it so difficult for republicans - who claim to be pro-individual liberty - to understand that all people want is to be treated the same as everyone else without legal restrictions that others do not face?! Andrew S. Apr 28, 2015 3:57 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Fwd: Justices divided on same-sex marriage in oral arguments - Tim C. Apr 28, 2015 3:38 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Community Outbreak of HIV Infection Linked to Injection Dr... - Tim C. Apr 28, 2015 3:36 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Community Outbreak of HIV Infection Linked to Injection Drug Use of Oxymorphone - Sadly, this has nothing to do with cost.  You see, when we start worrying about the welfare of junkies, we're forced to realise that they're actually human beings; once we realise they're human beings, we have to wonder why hea Andrew S. Apr 28, 2015 3:11 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Fwd: Justices divided on same-sex marriage in oral arguments - I hate the double-speak of "force states to allow"...how can you define a Supreme Court decision which would outlaw discrimination as forcing someone to allow something? On Apr 28,[masked]:37 PM, "C Sean Apr 28, 2015 3:07 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Community Outbreak of HIV Infection Linked to Injection Drug Use of Oxymorphone - Stephanie Apr 28, 2015 2:59 PM
Fwd: Justices divided on same-sex marriage in oral arguments - Appeal to tradition anyone? I would think that SCJs would have taken a logic course at some point... Chris K Apr 28, 2015 1:36 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Fwd: Re: Donation - Thanks for the heads-up on this, Sean. I wonder if someone there cut corners in hurriedly setting up their donation page. While the first page says "continue to support", the language on the main form page makes it Mark T. Apr 28, 2015 12:01 PM
Fwd: Re: Donation - Please see my communication below with Foundation Beyond Belief. Make sure you aren't mistakenly signed up for a monthly subscription if you didn't intend to. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Fr Sean Apr 28, 2015 10:47 AM
Indonesia drugs prisoners have final moments with family - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-­asia-32491980 I cannot understand how smuggling drugs gets you a firing squad.  How horribly sad. sheri p. Apr 28, 2015 10:46 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Nepal's devastation - THANK YOU! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Mark Tiborsky < sponyak Colleen G. Apr 28, 2015 9:48 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Nepal's devastation - Some science, etc on the quake - http://www.nbcnews.com/storyli­ne/nepal-earthquake/how-geolog­y-g Mark T. Apr 28, 2015 9:23 AM
RE: [humanism-174] Community Outbreak of HIV Infection Linked to Injection Drug Use of Oxymorphone - Commentary on needle exchange & RFRA - http://jurist.org/forum/2015/0­4/hodge-meager-religious-freed­om.php And a good ove Mark T. Apr 28, 2015 8:55 AM
Re: [humanism-174] What to do with your body when you die? - Organ donation, obviously, then I'm not sure.  I kind of like the idea of sky burial, but I'd also like to have something left to be scattered across my homeland, so I can go home at the end at least.  I'm currently thinking s Andrew S. Apr 28, 2015 8:29 AM

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