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Re: [humanism-174] Who voted for Bachmann? - Reminds me of the newscast on the Simpsons reporting on "Do what you feel day":   Kent Brockman: Springfield will have its first annual "Do What You Feel" Festival thisSaturday, whenever you feel like showi Ginger Jul 27, 2011 4:03 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Preview not available Ginger Jul 27, 2011 4:00 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Who voted for Bachmann? - Tim C. Jul 27, 2011 3:58 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Tim C. Jul 27, 2011 3:58 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Who voted for Bachmann? - A member who has since moved on lived in Bachmann's district for several years. He claimed that the district is heavily populated with descendants of relatively recent western European immigrants (mostly German), who are very conservative, Mark T. Jul 27, 2011 3:51 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Luke 13:3 - *rolls eyes again* (just for Tim) Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Tim Campbell" <[address removed]> To: <[address removed]> Laura Jul 27, 2011 3:44 PM
Re: [humanism-174] faithbook - Agreed. We need to at least let people know that some views are considered unacceptable by us, and it can be done so in a non-burning-bridges sort of way.   I'd be interested if the kids had any interesting questions about Ginger Jul 27, 2011 3:42 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - I highly recommend Fire in the Brain http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Bra­in-Clinical-Tales-Hallucinatio­n/ Ginger Jul 27, 2011 3:41 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Question for anyone using roadrunner email - Yes, that has happened to me. I believe one of the Randys hit me up with a couple of doubl Sam S. Jul 27, 2011 3:39 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Who voted for Bachmann? - Tim C. Jul 27, 2011 3:30 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Mark this a rather long article, but I will get to it. And get back to you on my summ Sam S. Jul 27, 2011 3:24 PM
Who voted for Bachmann? - http://scienceblogs.com/pharyn­gula/2011/07/the_kind_of_peopl­e_who_elect_m.php   "scum of the earth. Parts of Mich Ginger Jul 27, 2011 3:23 PM
Question for anyone using roadrunner email - Are you hitting reply or reply all when you post to the list?   I noticed that when a couple of people with roadrunner emails reply to a posts of mine, it gets sent to both me directly as a CC and the list.  It means I get tw Ginger Jul 27, 2011 3:23 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Maybe some evidence for or against whatever it is can be found in this (see attached). On Jul 27,[masked]:57 PM, "Sam Salerno" < [address removed] > wrote: Mark T. Jul 27, 2011 3:14 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Also,I would add that you can control meditation. If you take LSD you can not control it. Your going where it takes you and thats that! ---- Tim Campbell wrote: > Sure. The degree of difference is so great that one simply cannot user 9. Jul 27, 2011 3:13 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - State your claims, what are you asking to be proved? On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Sam Salerno < sam An Unknown K. Jul 27, 2011 3:01 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - I agree that it is a different scenario. But just as in the religious argument the on Sam S. Jul 27, 2011 2:56 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - No, I think very different. This argument applies simply to what goes on in peoples' minds, not any link to a "higher reality" or gods or any such codswallop. On Jul 27,[masked]:46 PM, "Sam Salerno" < Mark T. Jul 27, 2011 2:52 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Well if it can't be proved then it can't be disproved either. Then we're back to the Sam S. Jul 27, 2011 2:45 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Preview not available An Unknown K. Jul 27, 2011 2:43 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Can one "prove" the content of a dream through experimentation? On Jul 27,[masked]:27 PM, "Sam Salerno" < [address removed] > wrote: Mark T. Jul 27, 2011 2:37 PM
Re: [humanism-174] faithbook - How do you shame someone that hides behind and blames all of their misdeeds on an invisible scapegoat? John On Jul 27, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Sam Salerno < user 1. Jul 27, 2011 2:30 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Well, for me, until you can prove your claim through experimentation I will hold my g Sam S. Jul 27, 2011 2:27 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Thank you both Sam S. Jul 27, 2011 2:25 PM
Re: [humanism-174] faithbook - I don't know about skid marks. But I see a ch Sam S. Jul 27, 2011 2:24 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Tim C. Jul 27, 2011 2:13 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Preview not available An Unknown K. Jul 27, 2011 1:55 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - He is suggesting it may be possible. I doubt it but who can say with any certainty..... ---- Sam Salerno wrote: > That article of Sam Harris's clearly states that since hallucinogenic states of > mind can occur without inge user 9. Jul 27, 2011 1:54 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Preview not available An Unknown K. Jul 27, 2011 1:49 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Preview not available Ginger Jul 27, 2011 1:46 PM
Re: [humanism-174] faithbook - Tim C. Jul 27, 2011 1:39 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Tim C. Jul 27, 2011 1:36 PM
Re: [humanism-174] faithbook - Lol! This may be a serious matter but skid marks quote deserves enshrinement in the HOF. On Jul 27,[masked]:08 PM, "G" < [address removed] > wrote: Mark T. Jul 27, 2011 1:27 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - That article of Sam Harris's clearly states that since hallucinogenic states of mind Sam S. Jul 27, 2011 1:19 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Thats true. The natural means of altering perception can take you only so far. The mind is conditioned to think and focus so that we may survive. Any expansion of the mind has to completely interrupt the natural and biological facts of how we are built. user 9. Jul 27, 2011 1:09 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Tim C. Jul 27, 2011 1:09 PM
Re: [humanism-174] faithbook - Well I say, if they try to shame gay people, we should try to shame them. They should be ashamed. Let them get in the closet and breathe deep the vile sent of undies skid marked with hatred.   On Wed, J Ginger Jul 27, 2011 1:07 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - I used to practice meditation also. And I definitely experienced vivid scenes through Sam S. Jul 27, 2011 1:06 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Sam, I think they can for some people. In my lone experience with an "official" guided meditation I experienced a period of intense relaxation followed by a quite vivid vision- almost HD :) I didn't attach much significanc Mark T. Jul 27, 2011 12:59 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Luke 13:3 - Tim C. Jul 27, 2011 12:57 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Luke 13:3 - Tim C. Jul 27, 2011 12:56 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Tim C. Jul 27, 2011 12:53 PM
Fw: Responding to your message - Here is Rob Portmans round about way of saying he supports student voucher programs Sam S. Jul 27, 2011 12:49 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Luke 13:3 - *rolls eyes* Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Willard Brickey" <[address removed]> To: <[address removed]> Subject Laura Jul 27, 2011 12:49 PM
Re: [humanism-174] faithbook - Tim C. Jul 27, 2011 12:49 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Luke 13:3 - Nice, "unless you repent you will all likewise perish." So does that mean they will l Sam S. Jul 27, 2011 12:45 PM
Luke 13:3 - Saw that on a vanity plate yesterday. Willard B. Jul 27, 2011 12:36 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Because I don't want to get in a back and forth discussion with one person on the sam Sam S. Jul 27, 2011 12:29 PM
Re: [humanism-174] faithbook - Thank you, Mark :) I do agree that it begins at "home." Laura ---- Mark Tiborsky wrote: > Laura, three cheers for you engaging the way you did. The battle against > harmful irrationality begins at "home". > > On Jul 27, 201 Laura Jul 27, 2011 12:26 PM
Re: [humanism-174] faithbook - Laura, three cheers for you engaging the way you did. The battle against harmful irrationality begins at "home". On Jul 27,[masked]:04 PM, "Laura" < lbdiri Mark T. Jul 27, 2011 12:18 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Dick Goddard - I will let you know if it comes up, or maybe if there's a question/answer time I can find out his current view on it for you :) Laura ---- Tim Campbell wrote: > Cool, Laura! > Unfortunately I'll be out of town weekend of Au Laura Jul 27, 2011 12:09 PM
Re: [humanism-174] faithbook - Thanks Tim. Good points. Laura ---- Tim Campbell wrote: > A good vent! Quick quibble; they don't condone the heterosexual cheating, > but if you sin and then confess and ask for forgiveness, they are > obligated by thei Laura Jul 27, 2011 12:06 PM
Re: [humanism-174] faithbook - And I want to add that I know there are many fundamentalists out there and that the southern baptist church is known for their "fire and brimstone" preaching and their backwards way of thinking and believing but I didn't realize that THIS church in partic Laura Jul 27, 2011 12:04 PM
Re: [humanism-174] faithbook - Thank you for your thoughtful response, G. She probably doesn't know about how fb works, or maybe she didn't know if my page was private or public, so she errored on the side of caution. I was surprised at first that they would want to censor my posts and Laura Jul 27, 2011 11:56 AM
Re: [humanism-174] expansion of the universe - Tim C. Jul 27, 2011 11:35 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Truthdig: Sam Harris Responds to Chris Hedges? ??Fundamentalism Kills? Column - Preview not available Mark T. Jul 27, 2011 11:33 AM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Tim C. Jul 27, 2011 10:59 AM
Re: [humanism-174] faithbook - Tim C. Jul 27, 2011 10:57 AM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Tim C. Jul 27, 2011 10:48 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Dick Goddard - Tim C. Jul 27, 2011 10:46 AM
Re: [humanism-174] faithbook - Couple of points- 1) people who are their friends won't see what you post in your own feed unless they click through you on their list of friends *and* you have a public page. Unless you are posting LGBT stuff on their wall, which I d Ginger Jul 27, 2011 10:37 AM
Re: [humanism-174] expansion of the universe - A fly-by as seen from the nearest parallel  universe. On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:48 AM, TheTrailerTrashKing < thetrailertrashk Ray V Jul 27, 2011 10:00 AM
Truthdig: Sam Harris Responds to Chris Hedges? ??Fundamentalism Kills? Column - Hi, I read this on Truthdig and thought you would find it interesting. Sam's reply.... =-=-=-=-=-=-= Sam Harris Responds to Chris Hedges’ ‘Fundamentalism Kills� user 9. Jul 27, 2011 9:33 AM
The Political Mind - Shlomoh Jul 27, 2011 9:32 AM
Truthdig: Fundamentalism Kills - Hi, I read this on Truthdig and thought you would find it interesting. I will also send the Sam Harris reply.... =-=-=-=-=-=-= Fundamentalism Kills I worry mo user 9. Jul 27, 2011 9:30 AM
Relativity of simultaneity - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki­/Relativity_of_simultaneity This, to me, is one of the more interesting aspects of the special theory of relativity. Did a and b happen at the sa Willard B. Jul 27, 2011 9:26 AM
expansion of the universe - More accurate measurement of the Hubble constant. Plus a cool fly-by video of the universe. I would like to recommend the following story from Phy user 1. Jul 27, 2011 8:48 AM
Meetup details changed: Movie: "The Man Who Fell to Earth" - New Meetup. For more details, see the full listing: http://www.meetup.com/clevelan­dfreethinkers/events/27151801/­ When : Saturday, July 30,[masked]:0 Ellen Jul 27, 2011 7:02 AM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - No problem (although I believe this is the point of this mailing list, no? lol) On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Sam Salerno < An Unknown K. Jul 27, 2011 12:31 AM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - I will be glad to take this issue up with you on facebook. But I'm not gonna dominate the m Sam S. Jul 27, 2011 12:28 AM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - So the thousands of years of contemplative and shamanistic traditions mean nothing then? People are NOT having experiences when they meditate? I believe he provided ample proof in his post (Did you see the sou An Unknown K. Jul 27, 2011 12:09 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Dick Goddard - Oh I can't wait to read this book now. Yes, he is really nice :) Laura ---- Randall Tiedman wrote: > I was intrigued about him and bought his book. Glad to hear he is as nice as he seems......... > ---- Laura Laura Jul 26, 2011 11:47 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Dick Goddard - Oh wow! That IS good timing! He even mentioned this book to me and told me to read it. I'm definitely going to that meetup! Now that's a real coincidence! Laura ---- Mark Tiborsky wrote: > Cool, Laura! > > And good timing.. Laura Jul 26, 2011 11:46 PM
faithbook - Time to brag: A southern baptist church defriended me on facebook. (which I found kind of amusing until I found out the reason why and then I got mad) Time to vent: There's a southern baptist church in Middleburg Heights that my grandma used to take m Laura Jul 26, 2011 11:33 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - I read this article when it came out. And I disagree with Mr. Harris's take on it. He feel Sam S. Jul 26, 2011 11:28 PM
Fw: Reply from Senator Sherrod Brown - In case anyone is interested in Sherrod Browns stand on school vouchers is. Sam S. Jul 26, 2011 11:22 PM
Meetup details changed: Mr. Dick Goddard presents "Six Inches of Partly Cloudy" - I've updated this Meetup. For more details, see the full listing: http://www.meetup.com/clevelan­dfreethinkers/events/27056091/­ When : Saturday, Aug Mark T. Jul 26, 2011 11:16 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Fw: American Atheists: Suit filed to stop WTC "Cross" - Wow one of my former catholics agrees with me. I'm not quite sure how to take that. See we Sam S. Jul 26, 2011 11:15 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Dick Goddard - Cool, Laura! And good timing... see announcement very soon. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Randall Tiedman < tapollo99@road Mark T. Jul 26, 2011 11:08 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Dick Goddard - I was intrigued about him and bought his book. Glad to hear he is as nice as he seems......... ---- Laura wrote: > Dick Goddard was behind me in line at Buehler's today getting ice cream so I started talking to him and we ha user 9. Jul 26, 2011 11:02 PM
Dick Goddard - Dick Goddard was behind me in line at Buehler's today getting ice cream so I started talking to him and we had an interesting conversation that I thought I'd share. First I told him how I just bought a children's book that he did the illustrations in call Laura Jul 26, 2011 10:49 PM
Creationist vandals target biology professors' vehicles - From my sister's blog..... http://thepoliticalcarnival.ne­t/2011/07/26/creationist-vanda­ls-target-biology-professors-v­ehicles/ Chris K Jul 26, 2011 10:43 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Fw: American Atheists: Suit filed to stop WTC "Cross" - Preview not available Mark T. Jul 26, 2011 10:37 PM
Minority rules: Scientists discover tipping point for the spread of ideas - Could we be the creators if the next tipping point? Minority rules: Scientists discover tipping point for the spread of ideas user 1. Jul 26, 2011 10:34 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Rules for debate - I"'ve sometimes found it impossible to have a true debate because my "adversary" will NOT EVEN TAKE A LOOK at evidence which is contrary to their position" ?? I have found this to be true form the far left and th Sean P M. Dec 31, 2010 6:29 PM
Fwd: Letter to the Home Office: Sacred Books - Tim C. Dec 31, 2010 4:10 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Rules for debate - This is another great video on the rules of debate Ginger Dec 31, 2010 3:42 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Rules for debate - Ophelia Benson points out a big problem with those on the "left": ? "...the tendency of the political Left (which the editor of this site considers herself to be part of) to subjugate the rational assessment Mark T. Dec 31, 2010 2:28 PM
NE Ohio's Freethinking Past - It would be interesting to compile a history of area infidels. I've come across tidbits of information here & there, but nothing comprehensive. ? The big wave of immigration from Europe in the mid-1800's apparently Mark T. Dec 31, 2010 2:15 PM
Fwd: Sam Harris on Nightline - Preview not available An Unknown K. Dec 31, 2010 2:13 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: Any books that had a profound effect on you? - On Killing : The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society Sean P M. Dec 31, 2010 2:58 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Rules for debate - also I would remove 1 and add ?the debate can not end with the?childish "we agree to?disagree?garbage"?thei­r?must be a?resolution to our debate.? sean On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 2:48 AM, Sean P McD Sean P M. Dec 31, 2010 2:54 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Rules for debate - ?? ?Good post but remember both sides will have to follow these?guidelines or else it all falls apart. ?? ? ? ? ? ? ?Sean? On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Cari < Sean P M. Dec 31, 2010 2:47 AM
Attack Over Prophet Cartoons Thwarted - Attack Over Prophet Cartoons Thwarted http://www.time.com/time/world­/article/0,8599,2040114,00.htm­l An Unknown K. Dec 30, 2010 9:02 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Black "Whites Should Feel Guilty" Complex - Indeed, the dog fighting issue is something that's deeply imbedded in the more general thug culture which has both black and white coloration. To tre Jay D. G. Dec 30, 2010 8:13 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Rules for debate - I love the flow chart. It seems to lay out the same rules as Brother Sam Cari Dec 30, 2010 7:46 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Black "Whites Should Feel Guilty" Complex - I tend to agree. I am not responsible for what any of my ancestors, or their fellow caucasian contemporaries did or said, I am only responsible for myself. Having said that, I am a student of history, and as such, I am quite mindful of past injustice Randy Dec 30, 2010 4:34 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Black "Whites Should Feel Guilty" Complex - I would just say that the concept of white racial guilt is a form of racism and leave it at that. Ray Valenti On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Michael V < Ray V Dec 30, 2010 4:15 PM
Re: [humanism-174] The Black "Whites Should Feel Guilty" Complex - And I forgot the link. MichaelLV Dec 30, 2010 2:47 PM
The Black "Whites Should Feel Guilty" Complex - I was quite annoyed when I saw Rachel Maddow, who I love, link to a piece written by M MichaelLV Dec 30, 2010 2:45 PM

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