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RE: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - While I believe a woman should have the right to make the Ellen Aug 1, 2011 8:10 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - Well, in Great Britain anyhow the cutoff is 24 weeks except in cases of adverse effects of maternal or fetal health. I think that's reasonable. On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Ray V < Mark T. Aug 1, 2011 7:49 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - If your main concern is saving the fetus from pain, I might suggest that abortion is the best option.  Isn't the birth process painful? I believe it is for the mother.  Life itself is full of pain, every human being will experience a significant Ray V Aug 1, 2011 7:08 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - Yes, many different situations leading to being faced with the same choice.   It would be really nice to look at the abortion issue in a purely scientific manner, but I think that's nearly impossible.   Mark T. Aug 1, 2011 7:00 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Lol! I could use some :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Tim Campbell" <[address removed]> To: <[address removed]> Laura Aug 1, 2011 7:00 PM
Re: [humanism-174] - Tim C. Aug 1, 2011 6:53 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - Tim C. Aug 1, 2011 6:52 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - I think we can all agree that irrrsponsibility can be involed as it is in so many other things. With that being said, condoms break, pills fail, etc. Personally, reproductive rights are a h Chris K Aug 1, 2011 6:10 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - There are several stages of development before becoming a fetus. We can all agree that aborting a viable fetus can sometimes be irresponsible, but even this is not always true. In Somalia for example, is abortion better than having the baby, only to user 2. Aug 1, 2011 5:52 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - Indeed I agree On Aug 1,[masked]:20 PM, "Mark Tiborsky" < [address removed] > wrote: > Hey wait a minute, I cry "foul". > & An Unknown K. Aug 1, 2011 5:37 PM
(no subject) - Just saw a big sign in front of a church that says GENEROUS FOLLOWERS OF JESUS. Is this the church's way of trying to suck more money out of people? They'll preach about being more generous then pass the collection plate around. Laur Laura Aug 1, 2011 5:26 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - Hey wait a minute, I cry "foul".   How is it that 100% pro-choice, no ifs ands or buts, is the "official" skeptic (TM) position? The moral implications of abortion are more complicated then that. Can't Mark T. Aug 1, 2011 5:20 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - Yes but your responses are decidely non-skeptical. You make responses like a typical American and not like a an actual skeptic. You seem to be implying that the fetus has value, if so, how so? On Aug 1,[masked]:39 PM, " An Unknown K. Aug 1, 2011 4:43 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - Sorry, I will stop right now. I thought this was a skeptic group Hmm Sam S. Aug 1, 2011 4:39 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - Call me irresponsible then if I ever have an accident.   BTW-Someone please tell me (by private email) when people have stopped talking about it so I can return to the mailing list. I will now remove myself. Ginger Aug 1, 2011 4:25 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - How so? On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Sam Salerno < [address removed] > wrote: An Unknown K. Aug 1, 2011 4:21 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - I would offer to pay all the hospital bills and raise the child. I would not give her Sam S. Aug 1, 2011 4:02 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - If you had sex with a woman and she became pregnant from it and she wanted to abort would you offer her a contract for surrogate services- i.e. fully payment for all medical care, legal fees, lost wages, surrogate fee (usually at least $20,000, often Ginger Aug 1, 2011 3:52 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - The anti-abortion people have fostered the image of an abortion as removing a fetus.  all an early abortion removes is a few cells smaller than a pencil eraser. On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Sam Salerno & user 2. Aug 1, 2011 3:25 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - Wow That was one powerful reply. I digress. It's not my choice. But it does sadden me that a wom Sam S. Aug 1, 2011 3:17 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - If the woman doesn't want to be pregnant, or she finds herself pregnant and her health at risk because of it, there is no way in hell she is going to continue with the pregnancy just to put the child up for adoption.   Marni H. Aug 1, 2011 3:06 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Sickening Critical Thinking teacher - Hence is the problem with the words critical thinking and skepticism. If read an about glo Sam S. Aug 1, 2011 3:03 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Is the WTC cross a religious symbol? - And I agree with Hemant on this one Sam S. Aug 1, 2011 2:56 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - If men got pregnant Wal Mart would be doing abortions. Sent from my ayayayphone On Aug 1, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Sam Salerno < sa Chris K Aug 1, 2011 2:54 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - Yeah, I seen the news posting for this. It was obviously an attack on abortion although th Sam S. Aug 1, 2011 2:47 PM
Sickening Critical Thinking teacher - A critical thinking class is a magical thinking class that sits around telling ghost stories while the teacher mocks science and the one skeptic in the room. Student is asking for advice. I couldn't stomach Ginger Aug 1, 2011 2:40 PM
Re: [humanism-174] PZ Myers launches "Freethoughtblogs" - There is a road bump- http://scienceblogs.com/pharyn­gula/2011/08/help_freethoughtb­logscom.php They need a new server. Ginger Aug 1, 2011 2:33 PM
Is the WTC cross a religious symbol? - http://www.patheos.com/blogs/f­riendlyatheist/2011/08/01/prie­st-stop-calling-that-religious­-symbol-a-religious-symbol/ Ginger Aug 1, 2011 2:25 PM
Most Americans want religious politicians. - Preview not available Ginger Aug 1, 2011 2:12 PM
Molotov cocktail thrown at a PP clinic. - PP- Planned Parenthood. No one hurt. And they don't even perform abortions. But they do provide women with the tools to have sex responsibly outside of wedlock. *gasp* I'm sure I can get all the details in Ginger Aug 1, 2011 2:08 PM
Butter sculptures turn heads at Ohio State Fair - http://www.greendiary.com/entr­y/butter-sculptures-turn-heads­-ohio-state-fair/ Willard B. Aug 1, 2011 1:49 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Buckeye pride - Regrettably, no. I read about it in the Plain Dealer. I grew up in Columbus and used to attend the state fair every year. I have fond memories of past butter sculptures such as an astronaut and Michael Jackson, among others. There's an ou Willard B. Aug 1, 2011 1:36 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Buckeye pride - I was just in Columbus this weekend. Had I known of this magnificent sculpture, I might have ventured over to the fairgrounds. Willard, did you witness this masterpiece in person?   On M Randy Aug 1, 2011 1:29 PM
Buckeye pride - Anyone visiting the state fair this year should stop by the dairy building to see Ohio's latest contribution to culture and the arts-a sculpture of the space shuttle sculpted from 1550 pounds of butter. Willard B. Aug 1, 2011 1:18 PM
PZ Myers launches "Freethoughtblogs" - This is kinda sad that it's necessary, but it is. National Geographic has purchased Scienceblogs... I guess PZ & others are concerned that their anti-nonsense views will be censored, etc. by the "new regime". Must... "res Mark T. Aug 1, 2011 11:25 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Yes, that's right. If an innocent child dies, it was because God needed a child angel in Heaven. If the child is saved, it's because God answered prayers and is looking after him/her. God has a plan for us all, yet they pray, which means they Laura Aug 1, 2011 8:40 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Tim C. Aug 1, 2011 8:04 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Tim C. Aug 1, 2011 8:01 AM
RE: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Eric M Aug 1, 2011 7:56 AM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Like believing in God? On Aug 1,[masked]:58 AM, "Mark R. Orel" < [address removed] > wrote: > Willard: > > If only 1 Willard B. Aug 1, 2011 6:47 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Blinded Iranian acid victim pardons her attacker - For anyone who is interested, this is called 'qesas', which means 'retribution' and is identical to the lex talionis and the idea of 'an eye for an eye'. Qesas-e nafs, 'retribution of the self', is execution for murder; qes Ants F. Aug 1, 2011 5:23 AM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Willard: If only 10% of the population see a thing, then that thing Mark R. O. Aug 1, 2011 1:57 AM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - "This agreement would naturally be determined by the majority-ad populum." What is your basis for that statement? On Aug 1,[masked]:55 AM, "Mark R. Orel" < Willard B. Aug 1, 2011 1:05 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Ted Kaczynski was an atheist and had an I.Q. of 165. M. Or Mark R. O. Aug 1, 2011 12:59 AM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Ginger: I thought you were implying that God's existence is subjective &nb Mark R. O. Aug 1, 2011 12:55 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Ha! I know! I have often thought about that. Some think in terms of Pascal's Wager but we will never have the chance to say, "See?! You were wasting your time, energy, guilt, and basically your life on 'just in case' or 'what if' because in th Laura Aug 1, 2011 12:45 AM
RE: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Eric M Aug 1, 2011 12:24 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - It amazes me that people truly believe prayer works and that God is listening and cares. If God listened to prayers then all the bad conditions they pray about wouldn't be happening in the first place! All Christians have selective thinking. H Laura Jul 31, 2011 11:33 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Tim C. Jul 31, 2011 11:15 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Eric M Jul 31, 2011 11:02 PM
Blinded Iranian acid victim pardons her attacker - Found this interesting link on the Drudge Report: Blinded Iranian acid victim pardons her attacker - Yahoo! News http://news.yahoo.com/blinded-­iranian-acid-victim-pardons-he­r-attacker-115822996.html John user 1. Jul 31, 2011 10:50 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Looking back at the origins of Cristian theology as it took form in the 3rd and 4th centuries using neo Platonic cons Jay D. G. Jul 31, 2011 9:43 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Cleveland Indians: Please make an "It Gets Better Video" - Better yet, a Flying Spaghetti Monster miracle chain email. -----Original Message----- From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Randall Tiedman Sent: Sunday, July 31,[masked]:03 PM To: [address removed] Sub Eric M Jul 31, 2011 6:54 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Tim C. Jul 31, 2011 6:02 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Cleveland Indians: Please make an "It Gets Better Video" - Done... ---- G wrote: > Something I thought I'd pass along. I didn't know other teams were doing this. > ****** > > I just signed the petition "Cleveland Indians: Please make an "It Gets Better Video"" and wanted to see if user 9. Jul 31, 2011 5:02 PM
Cleveland Indians: Please make an "It Gets Better Video" - Something I thought I'd pass along. I didn't know other teams were doing this. ****** I just signed the petition "Cleveland Indians: Please make an "It Gets Better Video"" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name. Our goal is to reac Ginger Jul 31, 2011 4:44 PM
Fw: [The Brights] AUGUST BULLETIN - Shlomoh Jul 31, 2011 3:29 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Thank you Tim *sheesh* lol On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Tim Campbell < [address removed] > An Unknown K. Jul 31, 2011 2:42 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Check out Brilliantly Sarcastic Responses To Completely Well-Meaning Signs | - lol, they should sell a deck of cards with House saying I Ellen Jul 31, 2011 12:07 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Speaking Christian - Preview not available Mark T. Jul 31, 2011 11:43 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Preview not available Ginger Jul 31, 2011 11:22 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Check out Brilliantly Sarcastic Responses To Completely Well-Meaning Signs | - The site I was talking of before was called hackedirl.com , but now those are integrated into- http://wins.failblog.org/ so other stuff if mixed in with the sign hacks. My favorite Ginger Jul 31, 2011 11:19 AM
Re: [humanism-174] The Blog : Drugs and the Meaning of Life : Sam Harris - Mark O. says: Ginger:  No. They perceive what they feel is a truth regardless Ginger Jul 31, 2011 10:36 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Ms Bachmann said that anyone who believes in Jesus would not harm anyone el Shlomoh Jul 31, 2011 10:30 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Oh yeah. I didn't mean to say that an atheist would fly a plane into a builing. Shlomoh Jul 31, 2011 10:22 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Noah's Ark - Tim C. Jul 31, 2011 9:34 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Tim C. Jul 31, 2011 9:32 AM
RE: [humanism-174] Check out Brilliantly Sarcastic Responses To Completely Well-Meaning Signs | - Hilarious signs, also liked the collection of posted noti Ellen Jul 31, 2011 9:31 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Preview not available Ginger Jul 31, 2011 9:02 AM
RE: [humanism-174] Speaking Christian - user 2. Jul 31, 2011 4:02 AM
America's own Taliban - Opinion - Al Jazeera English - http://english.aljazeera.net/i­ndepth/opinion/2011/07/2011725­9426336524.html An Unknown K. Jul 31, 2011 2:00 AM
The Jews have a sense of humour lmao - http://i.imgur.com/bCmqJ.jpg An Unknown K. Jul 31, 2011 12:22 AM
RE: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Eric M Jul 31, 2011 12:01 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Shlomoh, this image pretty much nails it (see attached). How would a "militant Judaist" be represented? On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Miguelito < Mark T. Jul 30, 2011 11:54 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Check out Brilliantly Sarcastic Responses To Completely Well-Meaning Signs | - Eric M Jul 30, 2011 8:56 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Check out Brilliantly Sarcastic Responses To Completely Well-Meaning Signs | - There used to be a blog on the cheeseburger network with lots of these sign hacks. I think they stopped it not sure if it's still around but search for sign or grafitti hack or prank and there are other sites. I miss tha Ginger Jul 30, 2011 8:36 PM
Re: [humanism-174] cross case - Ah, good krischans! Imagine if a bunch of atheists had threatened to kill Christians. We'd have had a witch hunt. Craziness. Sent from my ayayayphone Chris K Jul 30, 2011 7:46 PM
Re: [humanism-174] cross case - I like it when people show what they are. Crucify us like Jesus on the cross? I'm guessing the irony is lost on most of those ignoramuses. Sent using knowledge discovered with the scientific method. Ginger Jul 30, 2011 7:32 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Noah's Ark - I was always amazed that Buzz Aldrin ( I think it was him) went looking for remains of Noah's Ark. A real space cadet! ---- Don Boos wrote: > Also, while there is zero evidence of any sort of global > flood/extinction event takin user 9. Jul 30, 2011 5:49 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Noah's Ark - Also, while there is zero evidence of any sort of global flood/extinction event taking place during the past 60 million years, There is also genetic evidence that it did not take place. There should have been a genetic bottleneck in both humans and ani user 2. Jul 30, 2011 5:42 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Noah's Ark - Yes this preceded the Hebrews by a long time. On Jul 30,[masked]:04 PM, "Shlomoh" < [address removed] > wrote: > Ah I thought that mesopota An Unknown K. Jul 30, 2011 4:31 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Yes with no intellectual basis behind it, there are no such thing as fanatical atheist that cause violence. We are the vanguards or reason, the soldiers of clear thinking. On Jul 30,[masked]:57 PM, "Shlomoh" < An Unknown K. Jul 30, 2011 4:11 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - OK.... How about your back though....there is no excuse for that..LOL ---- Shlomoh wrote: > Excuse my font !!! > > >   >   > Imagine there's no heaven. It's easy if you try. No hell below us. Above us only sky. >   > user 9. Jul 30, 2011 4:03 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Lmao so true. When I hear this noise of "fanatical atheist" I am left to wonder what is there bar for fanaticism? In my mind, they have the skin of of one so sensitive that a dirty look can reduce them to tears. Either that or they've con An Unknown K. Jul 30, 2011 4:01 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Excuse my font !!! Shlomoh Jul 30, 2011 4:00 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - well put but sometimes yell you to death? LOL Shlomoh Jul 30, 2011 4:00 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Noah's Ark - Ah I thought that mesopotamia had this flood found both in gilgamesh and Noah Shlomoh Jul 30, 2011 3:56 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - This is the part I take most issue with: " Chris K Jul 30, 2011 3:55 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Was I ranting? :) Shlomoh Jul 30, 2011 3:54 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Fanatical Atheist will only Argue you to death! In the end everyone goes home to argue another day. John On Jul 30, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Randall Tiedman wrote: > Also typing in large type is e-mail shouting! > ---- Randy user 1. Jul 30, 2011 3:45 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Also typing in large type is e-mail shouting! ---- Randy Pelton wrote: > Name names Shlomoh. Give specific examples of these fanatical atheists, the fanatical comments they have made and the fanatical acts they have performed. user 9. Jul 30, 2011 3:29 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Name names Shlomoh. Give specific examples of these fanatical atheists, the fanatical comments they have made and the fanat user 9. Jul 30, 2011 3:03 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Check out Brilliantly Sarcastic Responses To Completely Well-Meaning Signs | - I have died from laughter 6 times and had to be administered CPR On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Tim Campbell < An Unknown K. Jul 30, 2011 2:47 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - Who would you want? Politics almost demands you tailor your thoughts to please the greatest number of people. ---- Shlomoh wrote: > I don't recall flying planes, evidence, or anything else that you mentioned as part of my em user 9. Jul 30, 2011 2:32 PM
Check out Brilliantly Sarcastic Responses To Completely Well-Meaning Signs | - Tim C. Jul 30, 2011 2:08 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Noah's Ark - Tim C. Jul 30, 2011 2:00 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - It hit "a nerve" because it was foolsih in the extreme. You have not provided any evidence that there are fanatical atheists, and even if there were, would they be dangerous. What does one say " An Unknown K. Jul 30, 2011 1:59 PM
Re: [humanism-174] cross case - Tim C. Jul 30, 2011 1:53 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - "Bill Maher, who is a funny man, often ridicules religious people and religion, thereby insulting Americans." I say "boo-hoo-hoo" to that. Religionists ridicule reality on a daily bas Mark T. Jul 30, 2011 1:47 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: [humanism-174] - I don't recall flying planes, evidence, or anything else that you mentioned as part Shlomoh Jul 30, 2011 1:34 PM

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