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Vote 2010 - I am sending this e-mail to plug a discussion I began asking for endorsements for candidates and issues in the 2010 November 02 election. http://www.meetup.com/clevelan­dfreethinkers/messages/boards/­thread/9868808 Will apathy drive this election? Mark R. O. Oct 29, 2010 12:58 PM
Do people take the Bible seriously? - If I thought God "wrote" the Bible, and that he controls the universe and can either punish or reward me, I would read every last word. If not for obedience purposes, than for curiosity and the pursuit of knowledge about the creator. But many peopl Ginger Oct 29, 2010 12:56 PM
Verty religious healthier and happier - http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/­2010/10/28/gallup-very-religio­us-americans-have-higher-level­s-of-well-being/ From a study reported by CFI, people were happiest when they were strongly committed to their belief, religious or non-religious. The people Ginger Oct 29, 2010 10:36 AM
Board member resigns - Clint McCance, the man who made sickening anti-gay statement, ?(Anti-child and anti-human I should say) has resigned. He says what he said was "horrible" and "ignorant". http://www.670kboi.com/rssItem­.asp?feedid=118&itemid=2959241­2 Ginger Oct 29, 2010 10:27 AM
Facebook friend - This is regarding a sesationalist article she posted about the HPV vaccine. She said it was untested, so I asked what that meant. and she stated that she didn't understand why young girls get the vaccine when they aren't having sex, that it is pure sex Ginger Oct 29, 2010 9:12 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Liberal Gene - I must have inherited mine from me mum. My dad wasn't exactly conservative, per se, but he was sort of like a "certain ethnic Archie Bunker" :) On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Eric M < Mark T. Oct 29, 2010 1:03 AM
Re: [humanism-174] (link)Dad yells back at abortion protesters - Well someone said in the comments that sort of thing often happens. The man goes off to jail and th Ginger Oct 28, 2010 4:55 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Liberal Gene - No one in my family is very l Eric M Oct 28, 2010 3:44 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Liberal Gene - Tim C. Oct 28, 2010 2:27 PM
Re: [humanism-174] (link)Dad yells back at abortion protesters - Tim C. Oct 28, 2010 2:26 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Liberal Gene - Does this mean that if the extreme Right ever takes power in the US that folks with "liberal tendencies" will be considered genetically unfit and sent off Jay D. G. Oct 28, 2010 2:14 PM
why religion should be confronted- Stenger - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/­victor-stenger/why-religion-sh­ould-be-co_b_775163.html Ginger Oct 28, 2010 1:42 PM
Movember - Sorry, I know this is tangential to the topic for the list, I hope no one minds. (I'll keep it short) This November, my team and I, will be growing, sporting, and grooming our moustaches for MOVEMBER. We are raising funds and brainstorming so user 9. Oct 28, 2010 12:32 PM
Baptists denounce theocrats - Baptists step up for separation of church & state, denounce history-revising theocrats. http://www.abpnews.com/content­/view/5811/53/ Mark T. Oct 28, 2010 12:08 PM
(link)Dad yells back at abortion protesters - Forgot link- http://www.alternet.org/reprod­uctivejustice/148607/what_happ­ened_when_i_yelled_back_at_the­_%22christians%22_calling_my_w­ife_a_murderer/?page=1 This is a sad story. A couple is trying to have a second child. But the fetus is found t Ginger Oct 27, 2010 10:08 PM
Dad yells back at abortion protesters - This is a sad story. A couple is trying to have a second child. But the fetus is found to have a terrible birth defect which will cause it to die. So the woman has to have an abortion (or give birth to a stillborn baby or baby which will die soon af Ginger Oct 27, 2010 10:07 PM
Re: [humanism-174] I doubt Rand would approve - Stomper wants apology from protester. http://www.google.com/hostedne­ws/ap/article/ALeqM5iqyRjNifHL­Gx-_L9WWKZ3IDvSuCA?docId=ce79b­e8d3a9e41298deb07557abea653 One of the other Paul supporters may be charged with sexual assault http://www.sfgate.c Ginger Oct 27, 2010 9:18 PM
secularists voting guide - http://www.atheist-community.o­rg/political/votersguide/2010/­2010-questions.php Maybe next year we should do something like they did. Ginger Oct 27, 2010 7:26 PM
Tea Party-go screw yourself - http://market-ticker.org/akcs-­www?singlepost=2222649 One of the supposed founders thinks he's created a monster obsessed with guns, god and gays. Ginger Oct 27, 2010 7:13 PM
Re: [humanism-174] School board member's hate-filled FB page - Tim C. Oct 27, 2010 4:49 PM
Re: [humanism-174] why choose that word? - At least shopping malls have Eric M Oct 27, 2010 4:13 PM
Re: [humanism-174] School board member's hate-filled FB page - On many sites reporting this story (it exploded over night), there are listings of his business phone, the superintendant's phone and email, and other info. In addition to the negative media (I can see this on Maher this Friday), this guy and his sc Ginger Oct 27, 2010 4:05 PM
Re: [humanism-174] why choose that word? - The modern super churches of the exurbs are really nothing more than religious shopping malls. Jay --- On Wed, 10/27/10, Eric M <appraisalist Jay D. G. Oct 27, 2010 3:45 PM
Re: [humanism-174] why choose that word? - That's funny, I confuse massi Eric M Oct 27, 2010 3:14 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Pew religion survey is flawed. - The contortions of an embarrassed theologian? I fail to make sense of the author's "flaws"- am I missing something? Tell ya what, Jacques- how about Pew commissions a survey on the knowledge of basic science amongst the different Mark T. Oct 27, 2010 3:11 PM
Re: [humanism-174] why choose that word? - I think Havel has unregulated, unrestricted, greed drenched capitalism and really bad urban planning confused with Atheism. I just got back from Hungary a Jay D. G. Oct 27, 2010 2:42 PM
Re: [humanism-174] why choose that word? - ��� Roni & Elliott B. Oct 27, 2010 2:22 PM
Pew religion survey is flawed. - http://onfaith.washingtonpost.­com/onfaith/georgetown/2010/10­/pews_preposterous_pop_quiz.ht­ml Ginger Oct 27, 2010 12:49 PM
why choose that word? - http://crosscut.com/2010/10/27­/religion/20296/Pride-is-at-ce­nter-of-today-s--atheistic--cu­lture/ Odd article. ' What Havel means by ���atheism��� is noteworthy and, in the American context, unusual. He doesn���t define it in relati Ginger Oct 27, 2010 12:41 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: School prayer fiasco - I think the FFRF has every right to stick their nose in, as does any other concerned org. or citizen. Someone living there obviously complained to the FFRF about the pre-game, P.A.-amplified prayers to "Jeebie"... otherwise, how woul Mark T. Oct 27, 2010 12:33 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: School prayer fiasco - Tim C. Oct 27, 2010 11:45 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: School prayer fiasco - Ah, the good ol' Bible belt! At least Soddy Daisy is an "earthy" name... I'm surprised there aren't more towns in the BB with names like Apostlesville, TN and Christburgh, GA. What are its "boundaries", really? I Mark T. Oct 27, 2010 10:19 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: School prayer fiasco - Roni & Elliott B. Oct 27, 2010 9:42 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Anne Akiko Meyers Plays $3.6 Million Dollar Violin On Countdown - Wow! Thanks for posting. I have never heard a Strad played before. It has a very deep rich sound. I would love to hear the sibelius violin concerto played on it......---- MichaelV wrote: > Anne Akiko Meyers Plays $3.6 Millio user 9. Oct 27, 2010 9:25 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: School prayer fiasco - Roni & Elliott B. Oct 27, 2010 8:32 AM
Re: School prayer fiasco - Spontaneous recital of the Lord's Prayer will keep them evil FFRF atheists away! Or so thinks this person: http://www.chattanoogan.com/ar­ticles/article_187140.asp Mark T. Oct 27, 2010 8:00 AM
Re: [humanism-174] mardell has shared a Huffington Post article with you - Ok, I'm sorry but this guy is another right-wing moron. ? All this talk about whether or not the nonreligious & the science community should be "accommodational"...­ what about us? Doesn't a buffoon like t Mark T. Oct 26, 2010 11:34 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Is Free Thinking A Mental Illness? - It's funny the difference between "freethinker" and "free thinker"... these militia folks think the article applies to them. Was "paranoia" one of the supposed ODD symptoms? :) ? Mark T. Oct 26, 2010 10:50 PM
Re: [humanism-174] School board member's hate-filled FB page - I'd like to say that this surprises and shocks me, but it doesn't. There is so much of this kind of ignorance and hate out there. I've been privy to numerous individuals who assumed I was like-minded express exactly these types of sentiments to me. Tho James P. Oct 26, 2010 9:00 PM
School board member's hate-filled FB page - http://advocate.com/News/News_­Features/Arkansas_School_Board­_Member_Thinks_Fags_Should_Die­/ Scroll down to see the article. "No because being a fag doesn't give you the right to ruin the rest of our lives. If you get easily offended by being c Ginger Oct 26, 2010 6:29 PM
mardell has shared a Huffington Post article with you - mardell has shared a Huffington Post article with you: GOP Candidate Ken Buck: 'I Disagree Strongly With The Concept Of Separation Of Ch mardell Oct 26, 2010 5:13 PM
Fwd: A Trip to the Looney, er, Creation Museum, and a Review of Same - Tim C. Oct 26, 2010 3:38 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Response to Coyne on science religion friendship - Good duo of articles- neatly encapsulates the accommodationist/unapologetic "divide". These "friends" that Zimmerman is so worried about "offending"... I would think that many of them are already science-literate. Mark T. Oct 26, 2010 2:36 PM
Re: [humanism-174] religious debate at school - Our children were raised as secular Jews, told that we were atheists when they were old enough to understand it. But we always told them, just as we have told our grandchildren, to remember that other people have other beliefs, and that it's not ni Roni & Elliott B. Oct 26, 2010 1:31 PM
Response to Coyne on science religion friendship - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/­michael-zimmerman/picking-figh­ts-with-frien_b_765732.html Coyne's response http://whyevolutionistrue.word­press.com/2010/10/26/zimmerman­/ Ginger Oct 26, 2010 1:05 PM
I doubt Rand would approve - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39­845532/ns/politics-decision_20­10/ Woman physically restrained by Rand Paul supporters. If they were libertarians, they should be reminded that they are supposed to be against restriction of liberty by force. Ginger Oct 26, 2010 12:39 PM
religious debate at school - I heard a story about a kid who was 15 and believed in Santa Claus. Another kid told him it was not true (and probably laughed at him). The kid was intellectually normal, but just had a goofy family and the accompanying emotional problems. The mom c Ginger Oct 26, 2010 12:38 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Is Free Thinking A Mental Illness? - This article and the one it links to are total strawmen that totally misrepresent psychiatry. First Ginger Oct 26, 2010 9:22 AM
"Christeywood" - Religion Distpatches explores the strange world of Xtian films. http://www.religiondispatch Mark T. Oct 26, 2010 8:41 AM
Evolution Nominated for a Silver Birch Award - Evolution Nominated for Silver Birch Award by Daniel Loxton Josh Oct 26, 2010 8:34 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Is Free Thinking A Mental Illness? - On the contrary- I think it is a mental "cure", at least a "tonic" of sorts. You know... we don't have to worry about what imaginary beings might think of us, nor?do we?feel compelled to have?to lap up any sort of force-fed do Mark T. Oct 26, 2010 12:15 AM
Is Free Thinking A Mental Illness? - http://monicks.posterous.com/i­s-free-thinking-a-mental-illne­ss &nb Lisa M. Oct 25, 2010 11:17 PM
Prayer and Gloria Steinem - http://politicalticker.blogs.c­nn.com/2010/10/25/christine-od­onnell-says-prayer-impacts-her­-polls/ "...I don't often quote Gloria Steinem but she said you can look at a double standard if they wouldn't attack the male opponent that way and there's n Ginger Oct 25, 2010 2:49 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: angry gay voters may sway election - Maybe true. However, Obama doesn't need to appeal on DADT, but he is. And he will have the power to Ginger Oct 25, 2010 2:22 PM
Re: angry gay voters may sway election - user 7. Oct 25, 2010 2:04 PM
The young & the godless - Them atheist librul elite college professers must be a terrible influence :) The number of student secular orgs has more than doubled since 2008. http://www.secularstudents.org­/rec Mark T. Oct 25, 2010 1:30 PM
Fw: CFINO Cafe Inquiry Social on Wednesday & Upcoming Events - Ginger Oct 25, 2010 1:14 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Christian Privlege - Tim C. Oct 24, 2010 11:44 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Dawkins sues former employee - Tim C. Oct 24, 2010 11:38 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Dawkins sues former employee - This reminds me of the Catholic?priest?? Father Sam who ran the Interval brotherhood home and ended up with five million in his account. ?Of course this will be used by theists looking to vilify all ath Ray V Oct 24, 2010 11:35 PM
Dawkins sues former employee - http://www.independent.co.uk/n­ews/world/americas/an-ungodly-­row-dawkins-sues-his-disciple-­2115632.html The guy running his charity operations in the US was allegedly stealing from him. Ginger Oct 24, 2010 10:17 PM
Christian Privlege - http://ebonypearl.livejournal.­com/808533.html Found this interesting. Some Christians (as we know) feel they are being persecuted because people are finally expressing opinions that differ from theirs. I was telling Josh that Christian jewelr Ginger Oct 24, 2010 8:53 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Pagan trend - You cant eat "missionaries".... after you skin them and clean out the bullcrap there is nothing left..... ---- "Jay D. Gardner" wrote: > I believe that the American Indians probably had some good ways to cook > missionaries, b user 9. Oct 24, 2010 7:25 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Pagan trend - Tim C. Oct 24, 2010 4:51 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Pagan trend - I believe that the American Indians probably had some good ways to cook missionaries, but didn't pass Jay D. G. Oct 24, 2010 4:47 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Pagan trend - Tim C. Oct 24, 2010 4:42 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Pagan trend - Tim, I like the Asian Carp metaphor for Christianity. It's true that once they get into your pond Jay D. G. Oct 24, 2010 4:39 PM
The personification of "unapologetic atheist"? - Preview not available Mark T. Oct 24, 2010 3:18 PM
Members trying to change Catholic Church - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39­821248/ns/us_news-life/ Not the liberals, but the conservatives. And they are probably right from within their own framework. Catholicism isn't a democracy like some of the liberal members seem to think it is. The rule Ginger Oct 24, 2010 2:24 PM
angry gay voters may sway election - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/201­01024/ap_on_el_ge/us_gay_voter­s " If Democratic candidates are counting on long-standing support from gay voters to help stave off big losses on Nov. 2, they could be in for a surprise. Across the country, activists say Ginger Oct 24, 2010 2:20 PM
Re: [humanism-174] How Americans want wealth distributed - Tim C. Oct 24, 2010 2:12 PM
Re: [humanism-174] How Americans want wealth distributed - I have 1 final commen Gary Oct 24, 2010 1:58 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Pagan trend - Tim C. Oct 24, 2010 11:16 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Pagan trend - Tim C. Oct 24, 2010 11:15 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Pagan trend - You're right Tim. That's why I refuse to celebrate St. Patrick's Day. If someone asks me if I am anti-Irish, I'll tell them, no, I am actually proud of my Irish ancestry (my Mother's maiden name was Martin), that is why I refuse t Randy Oct 24, 2010 11:01 AM
preamble to Const and letter to editor - Tim C. Oct 24, 2010 10:27 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Pagan trend - Tim C. Oct 24, 2010 10:08 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Pagan trend - In Budapest there's a large escarpment overlooking the city from the Buda side dedicated to St. Gelbert wh Jay D. G. Oct 24, 2010 4:14 AM
For Beck and Christine - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v­=UW3QkJkz0_g Maybe no monkey man, but the next best thing! Ginger Oct 23, 2010 11:37 PM
Re: [humanism-174] How Americans want wealth distributed - This is Mark R. O. Oct 23, 2010 9:12 PM
Re: [humanism-174] How Americans want wealth distributed - To see how uneven the wealth is in this country go to: The L-Curve: A Graph of the US Income Distribution On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Randall Tiedman < user 2. Oct 23, 2010 6:07 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Fwd: ScienceDaily Top Science Headlines -- for Saturday, October 23, 2010 - The people who are bothered by not knowing how life (the Cosmos) originated never seem to be bothered by the question of how god originated. Since a god who can create the cosmos must be infinity more complicated than than his creation, that should be the user 2. Oct 23, 2010 6:00 PM
Re: School prayer fiasco - Preview not available Mark T. Oct 23, 2010 5:52 PM
School prayer fiasco - A big schtink is breaking out in Hamilton County, TN over loudspeaker-amplified prayers preceeding Soddy Daisy High School's football games. ? The Freedom From Religion Foundation ?has ste Mark T. Oct 23, 2010 5:27 PM
Re: [humanism-174] How Americans want wealth distributed - Tim, That was during their debate during the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago. The other incident occurred on firing line. As for the wealthy I do know some millionaires and they are the cheapest people on the face of the earth (billionaires are less user 9. Oct 23, 2010 2:47 PM
Re: [humanism-174] How Americans want wealth distributed - Tim C. Oct 23, 2010 2:19 PM
Re: [humanism-174] How Americans want wealth distributed - Tim C. Oct 23, 2010 2:16 PM
Re: [humanism-174] How Americans want wealth distributed - Gary, Since Michael's expressed views match my own very closely, I will piggy-back on what he wrote. I'll ad James P. Oct 23, 2010 12:18 PM
Re: [humanism-174] How Americans want wealth distributed - On Oct 22, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Mark R. Orel wrote: > First off, Mega Dittos to Gary. > > Michael, it was a HUMOROUS parable that makes > a good point. Oh come on, stop being so obtuse. It was moralizing tripe. The story ended with a lynching ( James P. Oct 23, 2010 12:00 PM
Re: Re: [humanism-174] How Americans want wealth distributed - It gets rough at times and that's to be expected from people who have encountered these arguments from many other sources and there is the chance we are stereotyping each other at times. A good fight is part of what this group does and if people get their user 9. Oct 23, 2010 11:33 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Re: Our Coming Mega-Drought | Mother Jones - yoo are the truthest mericun who luv the lord..if we dint stop evilution form being teachered we all would became homersexahal monkees....why do spell checkrr crash on my mi all the time? ---- Tim Campbell wrote: > Oh, them scient user 9. Oct 23, 2010 11:11 AM
Re: Re: [humanism-174] How Americans want wealth distributed - Preview not available Russell S. Oct 23, 2010 11:01 AM
Fwd: ScienceDaily Top Science Headlines -- for Saturday, October 23, 2010 - Tim C. Oct 23, 2010 11:00 AM
Re: Our Coming Mega-Drought | Mother Jones - Tim C. Oct 23, 2010 10:40 AM
WCPN/WKSU - Last night Josh and I were lucky enough to hear the tail end (no pun intended) of The Great Tennessee Monkey Trial presented by LA Theater Works on www.wcpn.org Cleveland's public radio. It was like Inherit the Wind but based closely on the actual c Ginger Oct 23, 2010 9:45 AM
Re: [humanism-174] How Americans want wealth distributed - Mark- Although I am generally on your side on this, I don't get why you keep repeating that it was Ginger Oct 23, 2010 9:08 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Rational Roommate Wanted - I understand why the fair housing act is important. I think the issue here is not that anyone is tryi Ginger Oct 23, 2010 9:05 AM
Re: [humanism-174] How Americans want wealth distributed - I appreciate your graceful response! I hope you are not afraid to post again. Ginger Oct 23, 2010 8:54 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Should scientists debate creationists? - Tim C. Oct 23, 2010 12:30 AM
Re: [humanism-174] How Americans want wealth distributed - Tim C. Oct 23, 2010 12:15 AM

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