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Re: [humanism-174] Noetic Science - Preview not available Miguel Nov 21, 2009 4:21 PM
Is atheism a "white male thing" - http://scienceblogs.com/pharyn­gula/2009/11/the_problem_of_th­e_oblivious_w.php ?There are some people some feminists in particular that feel that ath Miguel Nov 21, 2009 2:09 PM
Humor - Roni & Elliott B. Nov 21, 2009 1:33 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Noetic Science - Preview not available Mark T. Nov 21, 2009 1:21 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Three stages of truth - I agr ee . I like to call this the "Galileo Syndrome". "Hey, they opposed Galileo" or "Hey, they laughed at the Wright Brothers". Ye Josh Nov 21, 2009 1:03 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Noetic Science - Mike- I have not seen the movie. Can you give an example of a scientific claim it makes and what evid Ginger Nov 21, 2009 12:08 PM
Re: [humanism-174] transcendental Meditation - Lisa- I appreciate this article, especially since they did a controlled experiment and not just a cor Ginger Nov 21, 2009 12:03 PM
Three stages of truth - 'All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed. second, it is violently opposed. Thir Ginger Nov 21, 2009 12:01 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Noetic Science - The site claims: (3) Third-person perspective - Gathering data about objective physiological correlates of consciousness (e.g., research using rigorous scientific protocols, including experiments in psi, mind-body healing, and subtle energies). Em Ray V Nov 21, 2009 11:50 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Noetic Science - This is a video on "open-mindedness" this should clear up any confusion. It's sounds to me like you're using a subjective method of "knowing" to try to answer objective questions. Now I do now want to down intuition as it does sometimes works but the p Miguel Nov 21, 2009 11:23 AM
"Evidence for God" - Here is a website that is fun to poke through- it claims to offer "Evidence for God from Science." ? The "evidence" is of course atrocious, but they do take a very serious stab at countering the viewpoint o Mark T. Nov 21, 2009 11:17 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Noetic Science - Preview not available Mark T. Nov 21, 2009 10:32 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Noetic Science - Preview not available user 1. Nov 21, 2009 10:02 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Noetic Science - Yes, when it first came out. Thank you Mike for mentioning it. I highly recommend it. Mike wrote: > Has anyone seen the movie "What the bleep do we know?" It is a good introduction to noetic "science " and does offer some hard scientific explanatio user 1. Nov 21, 2009 9:40 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Noetic Science - Preview not available user 1. Nov 21, 2009 9:37 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Noetic Science - Micheal, I'm so sorry you're at a loss. I never want anyone to get confused or even lost to an idea. This is a horrible conclusion that any human can come to. My most favorite saying that I always use is, "If we can conceive it, then we can achieve user 1. Nov 21, 2009 9:32 AM
Re: [humanism-174] well its fixed! Proton beams circulate in Big Bang machine. - Hooray ! Richard wrote: > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34070582/ns/technology_and_science-science/ > > > > > > > -- > Please Note: If you hit "*REPLY*", your message will be sent to > *everyone* on this mailing list ([address removed] user 1. Nov 21, 2009 9:23 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Noetic Science - Preview not available Mark T. Nov 21, 2009 9:10 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Noetic Science - Preview not available Mark T. Nov 21, 2009 7:35 AM
Mr. Deity & the Skeptic - Skeptic Michael Shermer pleads his case before Jesus and Mr. Deity. Watch what happens Josh Nov 21, 2009 4:01 AM
Noetic Science - user 1. Nov 20, 2009 8:12 PM
transcendental Meditation - user 1. Nov 20, 2009 7:47 PM
Re: [humanism-174] "Anti-Natal Atheists?" - "Isn't being responsible perhaps an evolutionary disadvantage in response to the higher Muslim birth rates?" ? All things considered, probably not- members of "generation Y" are turning away fr Mark T. Nov 20, 2009 7:00 PM
Re: [humanism-174] "Anti-Natal Atheists?" - I would not say that atheists are too selfish to have enough babies.? I would say they are socially responsible.? With the damage to the earth that our excess population has already caused, the responsible position is too reduce the present population. Don B. Nov 20, 2009 6:04 PM
Blasphemy Ban? - Meanwhile, many Muslims are expecting the world to coddle even the most absurd of their beliefs. Forget that!!! ? AP Exc Mark T. Nov 20, 2009 5:58 PM
"Anti-Natal Atheists?" - Caspar Melville, editor of New Humanist magazine, attempts to quell the hysteria about the higher birth-rate Mooslims eventually taking over the EU. ? "Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks says atheists are too selfish Mark T. Nov 20, 2009 5:46 PM
Re: [humanism-174] [address removed] has shared something with you - That's a little spooky. I suppose because all those little Chinese kids who are making their te Jay D. G. Nov 20, 2009 4:22 PM
[address removed] has shared something with you - Interesting, I made a similar conjecture about this a few years ago. http://news.harvard.edu/gazett­e/story/2009/11/god-and-walmar­t/?sms_ss=email --- This message was sent by [address removed] via http://addthis.com. Please note that AddThis does n Miguel Nov 20, 2009 4:10 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Fw: Stalin at the D-Day Memorial - Having just read the article it doesn't appear that the museum will be "honoring" Stalin so much as a Jay D. G. Nov 20, 2009 2:39 PM
Re: RE: RE: [humanism-174] FW: Remember Bill Maher? - update - As with plate tectonic,s the the visual evidence was there, but until a mechanism was put forward the theory was was not viable. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Nathan < Don B. Nov 20, 2009 11:48 AM
BBC E-mail: Peru arrests 'human fat killers' - Miguel saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you should see it. ** Peru arrests 'human fat killers' ** Police in Peru arrest members of a gang accused of killing dozens of people to sell their fat for use in cosmetics. Miguel Nov 20, 2009 11:15 AM
RE: RE: RE: [humanism-174] FW: Remember Bill Maher? - update - Nathan Nov 20, 2009 10:06 AM
Re: RE: RE: [humanism-174] FW: Remember Bill Maher? - update - >> Maher is ignorant of vaccination, he could educate himself by reading the responses and following some of the links to other articles that refute what he has said and point out the poor logic of his post. I don't Suzanne Nov 20, 2009 10:02 AM
Re: Re: RE: [humanism-174] FW: Remember Bill Maher? - update - I agree that there must be compelling evidence to change consensus.? My issue is that people who are raising doubt and trying to do that are frequently mocked and their work suppressed/ignored by the perceived authorities that the masses look to for guida Suzanne Nov 20, 2009 10:01 AM
RE: [humanism-174] Facebook Group: Revocation of tax-exempt status from churches engaging in political action - Nathan Nov 20, 2009 9:14 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Facebook Group: Revocation of tax-exempt status from churches engaging in political action - What do facebook groups and causes actually do? But otherwise I agree, the tax laws sho Ginger Nov 20, 2009 8:50 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Facebook Group: Revocation of tax-exempt status from churches engaging in political action - Idk about this one. A church's money comes almost entirely from its parisioner's dues. If t Maria Nov 19, 2009 11:43 PM
Facebook Group: Revocation of tax-exempt status from churches engaging in political action - http://www.facebook.com/home.p­hp#/pages/Revocation-of-tax-ex­empt-status-from-churches-enga­gi Suzanne Nov 19, 2009 11:33 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Dumby Nation - Big difference at least with the 2000 Bush election- as you remember, Bush won (supposedly) the decisive state, FL, by a mere 436 votes- and there were indeed suspicious circumstances in some?FL voting districts, though apparently no hard evidence wa Mark T. Nov 19, 2009 10:43 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Dumby Nation - Well how many liberals think Bush stole his elections? Ginger Nov 19, 2009 10:11 PM
Dumby Nation - Oh, the stoopit- how it burns... ? Poll: Majority of Republicans Bel Mark T. Nov 19, 2009 6:10 PM
Fw: Free Screening of the Movie, Fresh! - As some of you may recall, I posted a couple months ago about my involvement with an env Matt Nov 19, 2009 5:32 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - Why do Miguel Nov 19, 2009 5:14 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - She says "It's the only explanation". What about evolution? Early hominids wnt for 1,000,000 years using only a simple handheld sharpened stone, then started making a varity of stone tools. The same could be true for myths and legends. Don B. Nov 19, 2009 5:09 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version:[masked] / Virus Database:[masked]/2513 - Release Date: 11/19/09 07:51:00 Don M Nov 19, 2009 5:01 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Need the best link to a site about the h1n1 ingredients and their safety. Thanks! - I've had seasonal flu vaccine every year for 14 years, except this year. I will probably get in in December. H1N1 is not available to James P. Nov 19, 2009 5:00 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Need the best link to a site about the h1n1 ingredients and their safety. Thanks! - I got the regular flu shot and am waiting on the H1N1. I'll be first in line! Ginger Nov 19, 2009 4:48 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Need the best link to a site about the h1n1 ingredients and their safety. Thanks! - No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version:[masked] / Virus Database:[masked]/2513 - Release Date: 11/19/09 07:51:00 Don M Nov 19, 2009 4:21 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Need the best link to a site about the h1n1 ingredients and their safety. Thanks! - Nathan Nov 19, 2009 4:21 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Need the best link to a site about the h1n1 ingredients and their safety. Thanks! - Nathan Nov 19, 2009 4:18 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Need the best link to a site about the h1n1 ingredients and their safety. Thanks! - Since we're having this debate, just curious how many free thinkers are getting the flu/h1n1 vaccine for themselves/children? I was blessed enough to catch h1n1 during a vacation in New Orleans in August so I havent given much thought to the vacc Jill M. Nov 19, 2009 4:17 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Need the best link to a site about the h1n1 ingredients and their safety. Thanks! - It is important to note that the "mercury" (thimerosal is a derivative of mercury) is ethyl-mercury, which is cleared from the body in a matter of hours. Methyl-mercury is the harmful derivative mercury, there is none of this in any vaccine. -Nathan Nathan Nov 19, 2009 4:15 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Need the best link to a site about the h1n1 ingredients and their safety. Thanks! - having this same problem at home... that'll help. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Josh < [address removed] > wrote: aditya Nov 19, 2009 3:59 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Need the best link to a site about the h1n1 ingredients and their safety. Thanks! - Hey , Ri chard! This most recent episode of Skeptoid deals with this very subject. Click Josh Nov 19, 2009 3:58 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Need the best link to a site about the h1n1 ingredients and their safety. Thanks! - Thimerosal, aluminum, formaldehyde, "insect repellant" (whatever that means). People think they'll all kill you or cause autism or alzheimers or "aggregate toxicity." I'm not sure what that means. -Nathan -----Original Message----- From: humanism-17 Nathan Nov 19, 2009 3:38 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - "the non-coding sequences thought to be junk dna or now known as mystery dna is no less than genetic code of ET life forms..." That's almost the exact wording used by the bogus internet article I mentioned earlier. Once again, it was Dmitry B. Nov 19, 2009 3:37 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - I still don't know what you mean. Are you saying that our "junk DNA" is the DNA of extra-terrestrial life forms? How did it get inserted into our genome? Who inserted it? Am I misunderstanding something? -nathan -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Nov 19, 2009 3:34 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - Based on what is your conjecture? Sent on the Now Network��� from my Sprint�� BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Johnson Date: Thu, 19 Nov[masked]:07:45 To: Subject: Re: [hu Miguel Nov 19, 2009 3:10 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - I will be more careful with my wording... I meant to say the non-coding sequences thought to be junk dna or now known as mystery dna is no less than genetic code of ET life forms... Nathan wrote: > What do you mean by "some of our DNA is alien?" user 1. Nov 19, 2009 3:07 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - Nathan Nov 19, 2009 1:17 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - I would agree since there is absolutely no evidence of any intelligent alien presence every visiting Jay D. G. Nov 19, 2009 1:02 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - A quick Google search turns up a bunch of woo-type articles claiming that a scientist working at the Human Genome Project (namely "Sam Chang") stated that "junk DNA" is really alien in origin. I hope this isn't what you' Dmitry B. Nov 19, 2009 1:01 PM
Re: [humanism-174] FW: Remember Bill Maher? - update - Science is not easy, and science is not fast. But this is why science is reliable. -James James P. Nov 19, 2009 12:53 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - "'Mankind' jumped significantly after millions of years of a very slow human development. There was Ginger Nov 19, 2009 12:51 PM
Re: [humanism-174] FW: Remember Bill Maher? - update - Being a skeptic or freethinker does not mean one should consider any or all positions as potentially valid. Particularly when those positions have been shown to have no reliable evidence supporting them. All ideas are no James P. Nov 19, 2009 12:49 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - Can you provide a link to the research group that stated that some of our DNA is extraterrestrial? Dmitry On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Lisa Johnson < l Dmitry B. Nov 19, 2009 12:44 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - Nathan Nov 19, 2009 12:43 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - What do you mean by "some of our DNA is alien?" -Nathan -----Original Message----- From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Lisa Johnson Sent: Thursday, November 19,[masked]:34 PM To: [address removed] Sub Nathan Nov 19, 2009 12:41 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - There is no debate to be had!? Intelligent Design (more properly recognized as creationism) is not a "theory" in the same sense that Evolution is a theory.? The only place where this debate exists is in the mind of the creationist. Prop Dmitry B. Nov 19, 2009 12:38 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - Well one basis is that some of our DNA is alien, stated by groups of researchers and scientists. I went from Junk DNA to Mystery DNA, soon to be called something else... 'Mankind' jumped significantly after millions of years of a very slow human de user 1. Nov 19, 2009 12:33 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Is this campaign really targeting children? - Nathan Nov 19, 2009 12:33 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Pray For Obama Psalm 109:8 - Huh, who knew the Bible was full of such mean-spirited, violent nonsens Brian J. Nov 19, 2009 12:21 PM
Is this campaign really targeting children? - h Ginger Nov 19, 2009 12:16 PM
RE: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - Nathan Nov 19, 2009 12:13 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - What's your opinion based on? Ginger Nov 19, 2009 12:06 PM
Evolution Theory vs Intelligent Design or ... - What are your thoughts on this debate? I think we can rule out the "Creati user 1. Nov 19, 2009 11:53 AM
Re: [humanism-174] FW: Remember Bill Maher? - update - Thank you Suzanne, these are excellent points supported by brilliant facts. Suzanne wrote: > />> The consensus of the scientific > community is what most people must rely on due to not being experts in > every > field themselves. / > > , your me user 1. Nov 19, 2009 11:24 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Thanksgiving Run for the Homeless - Jim, I'll be out of town that weekend but wish you the best. It might be a good idea though to post a link or let us know how we can make donations to your and your daughters team. I'd be happy to help out that way. Jill M. Nov 19, 2009 10:36 AM
Re: RE: [humanism-174] FW: Remember Bill Maher? - update - But these people had to come up with the goods and change that consensus before their opinions or h Ginger Nov 19, 2009 9:38 AM
RE: RE: [humanism-174] FW: Remember Bill Maher? - update - Nathan Nov 19, 2009 9:30 AM
Re: RE: [humanism-174] FW: Remember Bill Maher? - update - >> The consensus of the scientific community is what most people must rely on due to not being experts in every field themselves. Maybe, but this statement would seem de facto to contradict the tenets of Freethinkers and Ske Suzanne Nov 19, 2009 9:11 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Volunteer/Community Service - I'd like to help also. I have my kids every other weekend. Nov 28 or Dec 12 I am free though... Gordon --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Randy Gordon Nov 19, 2009 6:10 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Volunteer/Community Service - Preview not available Randy Nov 19, 2009 3:02 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Pray For Obama Psalm 109:8 - Their asininity is showing... no coherent ideas? No problem- just whip out some silly bible verses. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:45 PM, MichaelV < suijurisreverie@ Mark T. Nov 19, 2009 12:14 AM
Re: [humanism-174] Volunteer/Community Service - Preview not available James P. Nov 18, 2009 11:06 PM
How to Debate a Creationist - For one week only, in honor of Darwin, the Skeptics Society is offering a free download of this wonderful booklet. It's called Josh Nov 18, 2009 10:28 PM
Re: [humanism-174] atheist group bullied at meetup - Did the sign contain profanity, a graphic nude picture or something evil?? You would think that it did. Ignorance should not be tolerated. Ginger wrote: > http://www.ocregister.com/news/group-220047-beach-weaver.html > > Members of an atheist grou user 1. Nov 18, 2009 10:21 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Pray For Obama Psalm 109:8 - I had to chuckle.. bad! hehehe MichaelV wrote: > http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/11/16/biblical-anti-obama-slogan-use-of-psalm-1098-funny-or-sinister/ > > Apparently some of our religious friends are buying merchandise with > the messa user 1. Nov 18, 2009 10:18 PM
atheist group bullied at meetup - http:// Ginger Nov 18, 2009 9:37 PM
religiousness from romantic competition - People feel more religious when they encounter attractive romantic rivals. Ginger Nov 18, 2009 9:32 PM
Richard Dawkins.com tweets Mark and Ray - I just checked Twitter and what did I see? RichardDawkins tweeter a link to Mark and Ray's Scene interview. Awesome! http://Twitter.com/richard_daw­kins -James James P. Nov 18, 2009 8:27 PM
Thanksgiving Run for the Homeless - Marni's request for volunteers and our great response made me think some of you may be interested in joining me and my daughter on Thanksgiving morning. W Jim H Nov 18, 2009 7:03 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Volunteer/Community Service - Brian and I are also interested and are free most Saturday mornings. Count us in, too. Jim and Brian Robbins --- On Wed, 11/18/09, Marni Jim H Nov 18, 2009 6:39 PM
Re: [humanism-174] FW: Remember Bill Maher? - update - I don't know... I fail to understand the intense emotions on either side of the "vaccine debate". ? I follow the advice of my own doctor- he is of the "want a seasonal flu shot? Fine... Don't want one? Mark T. Nov 18, 2009 5:35 PM
Re: [humanism-174] Interview with Mark and Ray! - Preview not available Mark T. Nov 18, 2009 5:19 PM
Re: [humanism-174] FW: Remember Bill Maher? - update - That is your opinion.. Apology accepted.. Nathan wrote: > My tone probably was hostile, but Mercola has been shown time and time again to be very anti-vaccine in general and frequently speaks out with irrational and ignorant arguments against vaccina user 1. Nov 18, 2009 4:56 PM
RE: [humanism-174] FW: Remember Bill Maher? - update - My tone probably was hostile, but Mercola has been shown time and time again to be very anti-vaccine in general and frequently speaks out with irrational and ignorant arguments against vaccination. I find it ironic that he would condemn the government fo Nathan Nov 18, 2009 4:53 PM
Re: [humanism-174] FW: Remember Bill Maher? - update - Your tone is a bit hostile. All I offer is information from doctors and scientists. You can make *_your own decision._* ~ The government NEVER does anything dangerous and unethical! LOL! Do your own research. That is "my point"... No need to bite an user 1. Nov 18, 2009 4:48 PM
RE: [humanism-174] FW: Remember Bill Maher? - update - Lisa, do you have a point to make here? Or, do you really accept Mercola's claim that the government is launching a "propaganda blitz?" What exactly does that mean? Do you have evidence that the government is doing something dangerous or unethical (blit Nathan Nov 18, 2009 4:39 PM
Re: [humanism-174] FW: Remember Bill Maher? - update - http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/17/Obama-Administration-Launches-Deceptive-Swine-Flu-Propaganda-Blitz.aspx Dr. Mercola website (flu shot and H1N1) if you want more detailed info. Nathan wrote: > > I have received my H1N1 user 1. Nov 18, 2009 4:12 PM

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