Re: [vegan-440] Walk for Farm Sanctuary

From: Laura T.
Sent on: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:26 PM
You should read a wonderful book called "The Pig Who Sang to the Moon: The Emotional World of Farm Animals". It's been proven that if given the opportunity, and returned to the environment in which they were taken (not released onto some busy street or busy city such as a cat might), that farmed animals do resort to their wild behavior and do just fine without us. We are the ones that have altered them to the point that they can no longer walk or if they can, are walking on mutilated feet trying to support bodies made to be two to three times their natural size, all for the sake of making money. This is what I mean when I say "getting in bed with agribusiness". And trust me when I tell you from what I've seen first hand, there are things worse than death. I think that people think too highly of themselves when they say that these animals would not exist without us... it's quite the opposite actually.
 
I certainly do not intend on pitting one organization against the other, they both have wonderful intentions, so if I came across that way then I apologize profusely, I just think the issue is one way or the other, not conceding that 19 inches improves anything. Would that make a difference to you? I'm just asking, not antagonizing...
 
Laura Tennison
 
"Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer
 
Science may have found a cure for most evils; but it has found no remedy for the worst of them all – the apathy of human beings. – Helen Keller

From: Laura K <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Monday, October 24,[masked]:57 PM
Subject: Re: [vegan-440] Walk for Farm Sanctuary

I also respectfully submit that not every vegan thinks that a better life for farm animals is a distraction from the true goal. For some of us, humane treatment of animals is the highest goal. It makes little sense to me to talk about life and death on a small, compassionate farm as enslavement and murder when the alternative is either not existing or what is arguably a worse life and death in the wild. Just look at "freed" / feral cats to see how well they live in the wild, with diseases, parasites, no veterinary care, and death by starvation, hypothermia, infection, predation, hit by cars, etc. Humans are the only predators who are even capable of caring about humane treatment of their prey. Factory farms are a stain on our soul and need to be eradicated, but humans living in harmony with nature as thoughtful and ethical omnivores is, in my opinion, a noble goal. 

I understand that others on this list passionately disagree with me. That's fine. I just wanted to give voice to the minority opinion so that others who may hold this view know they are not alone.

As for Peaceful Prairie v. Farm Sanctuary, they are both worthy organizations in my book. I don't think it does much good for the cause to pit one against the other. 

My two cents. I support each person's ability to think for themselves and draw their own conclusions.

Laura

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Tim Zee <[address removed]> wrote:
I respectfully submit that it would be a huge mistake to allow the pursuit of the perfect prevent our acceptance of what by most objective standards are "better" conditions for farm animals.  In addition, I really think it's a mischaracterization to call a non-profit organization's operating surplus "profit."  No reason to think they must spend every penny they take in, rather than choose to save some of it for future major initiatives, right?
 
I also certainly have nothing against PPS, but there's something to be said for focusing financial support to the few organizations out there that have consistently been successful in getting out the message to the general public on a broad scale, gaining traction on legislative matters, and the like.
 
-Tim Zee


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From: Laura Tennison <[address removed]>
To: vegan-440 <[address removed]>
Sent: Mon, Oct 24,[masked]:57 am
Subject: [vegan-440] Walk for Farm Sanctuary

Though some may not agree with what I'm about to say, I feel it is an important issue that concerns all of us who have chosen the only cruelty-free lifestyle there can be, Veganism, and the many people that dedicate their lives to animal activisim. It is without question or compromise: animals deserve the same freedoms we have to live the lives they were meant to live, free from cruelty, pain, fear, slavery and exploitation. They currently have NONE of these, and though all of you work tirelessly to make changes and to change minds and practices, I can't help but question some of the organizations we have chosen to support, or at least to solely support.  Though I know that organizations like Farm Sanctuary do so very much good, I must question the ease in which they have gotten into bed with the UEP to "better" the lives of caged hens (to me it is just a tool used to help the public feel all warm and fuzzy while these animals are still suffering). Adding 19 inches to a confined animals prison will make no difference in their happiness, they are still in prison. The only way to do that is to take away confinement and slavery period and the inevitable horrific death they will suffer at hands of unfeeling murderers. We should be promoting and fighting for animals to live freely, no matter the cost, and fighting for their right to life. Not compromising for what we consider to be "better". Have we asked the chickens what they think of this so-called "better" life? I do not feel right about the so-called "progress" that is being lauded as ground breaking. Peaceful Prairie Sanctuary is struggling and practically begging for money to get them through the winter with upwards of a 100+ animals on 200 acres, all the while Farm Sanctuary makes a profit, that's profit people, of over 1 million dollars every year for 175 acres and have assets totaling over 7 million dollars. Now, here in our own backyard is Peaceful Prairie Sanctuary, run solely on donations and volunteerism, and by two very dedicated people, with literally no profit at all and certainly no assets to fall back on. Does this make sense to you? It certainly does not to me...
 
If you are at all interested in learning more about this issue that to me seems quite contrary, please check out the article below and make your own decision. I walked for Farm Sanctuary last year and raised a lot of money for them, but I will not be walking this year. I will send what little money I have to PPS, who does not make any sort of annual profit, who have no assets to rely upon in an emergency and who struggle to stay afloat every year. They do not have the support of famous actors/actresses, authors, congressman or CEO's of major specialty markets. There is only the two founders of PPS to do the work needed to keep this beautiful place afloat. And all of the volunteers blessed to be a part of this very special place. Please, just keep an open mind and see for yourselves what you already know, changing cage sizes and slaughter methods is not what we are fighting for...
 

 
Laura Tennison
 
"Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." - Albert Schweitzer
 
Science may have found a cure for most evils; but it has found no remedy for the worst of them all ? the apathy of human beings. ? Helen Keller




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