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Big Run / Austin Mtn / Furnace Mtn / Jones Run / Doyles River - 17.1 miles

  • Apr 17, 2011 · 8:00 AM
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NOTE: This hike is cross-posted with the Fredericksburg Regional Hiking \ Biking \ Outdoors Group.

This is a long and strenuous hike with approximately 5300 feet of elevation gain. You should be an experienced hiker that understands what it means to hike this long with this much elevation gain. If you are at all unsure, please contact the hike leader (Dave) for further guidance.

The hike is a combination of three HikingUpward.com hikes:

Big Run - http://www.hikingupward.com/SNP/BigRun/

Austin/Furnace Mountains - http://www.hikingupward.com/SNP/AustinFurnaceMountains/

Jones Run/Doyles River - http://www.hikingupward.com/SNP/JonesRunDoylesRiver/

We will get an early start at 8:00am from the trailhead so that we can finish the hike with time to stop in Culpeper for an after hike meal.

Directions

We will park in the Doyles River parking area. Use the directions provided for the Big Run hike as it uses this same parking area.

Itinerary

We will start with the Big Run hike. Where it intersects with the Austin/Furnace Mountains hike, we will continue with that hike. Where the Austin/Furnace Mountains hike intersects with the Jones Run/Doyles River hike, we will continue with that hike. A map and detailed itinary for our hike can be found at this link:

http://files.meetup.com/317560/BigRun_AustinFurnace_JonesRunDoyleRiver.pdf

Gear List

As always, be sure to bring plenty of water and snacks for this hike. I suggest 3 to 4 liters of water.

You should also bring extra socks and dress in layers. You will need to remove your outer layer(s) when we start the hike and you will want to put some of this clothing back on when we stop for breaks to prevent getting chilled.

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  • Steve

    If Holger was tracking the route on his phone then his phone did the extra 1 mile to the bridge since it was in my pocket when I did it.

    April 22, 2011

  • Jim N.

    Holger told me he tracked our hike (those who crossed Madison Run) at 19 miles, which fits with my estimate. The map estimate I did was 4900' but know from experience it misses a lot, so 6000' elevation gain does not surprise me at all

    April 21, 2011

  • Dave

    @ Holger ... I understand that you recorded the route on your GPS. Please send me the .GPX file so I can compare it to the route that Peter recorded on Saturday.

    April 21, 2011

  • Peter J.

    @ Dave if you are running Windows, right click on the link and select "Save target as..."

    April 20, 2011

  • Dave

    @Holger ... I would like to download some of the videos ... is it possible to do so?

    April 20, 2011

  • Chris L

    Great videos Holger - the sound of the water really makes an impression! Dave - thanks for the stats - those are some interesting numbers. We'll have to talk about GPSs sometime.

    April 19, 2011

  • Holger

    Hey guys,
    It was great meeting you all on Sunday!

    I wanted to send you some links for a couple of videos of you tackling the most strongest force in nature - water. Some of them are quite large in size. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9318655/MVI_9096.AVI
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9318655/MVI_9205.AVI
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9318655/MVI_9209.AVI
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9318655/MVI_9210.AVI
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9318655/MVI_9211.AVI
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9318655/MVI_9212.AVI

    April 19, 2011

  • Dave

    @Steve - skipping the Furnace Mountain summit out and back results in .9 miles less distance and 250 feet less elevation.

    April 19, 2011

  • Steve

    @Dave - we skipped the 1 mile round trip to the summit prior to blackrock. I don't remember what the summit was called.

    April 19, 2011

  • Dave

    I edited Peter's GPS recording of the Saturday hike so that it followed the route that the Sunday group took. After doing so, my Garmin Basecamp software indicated it was 18.1 miles with just over 6000 feet of elevation gain. I suspect it was probably closer to 18.5 miles. For those that did not ford Madison Run and instead took the bridge/bushwack route, add 1.5 miles. That is how far our bushwack was on Saturday. That means most of you hiked about 20 miles.

    April 19, 2011

  • Jim N.

    Great smart, tough people, and track, solid workout on a fab day and a lot of fun! Thanks guys for letting me take pics (of everyone and everything) and hope you enjoy them! I really appreciate you dragging me out on a killer hike for a change! I am so used to having to be at the back of the pack to look after everyone, it was a great pleasure to "let it out"! So kudos to all the wonderful people and hope this is just the beginning of many more shared trips together!

    April 19, 2011

  • Chris L

    That was an awesome loop Dave put together - a keeper and a great test. It was pretty amazing to cover so much ground on both sides of Sklyine Drive, and the Falls at Jones Run/Doyle river were a true surprise and a great way to end the hike. Also thanks to Dave for coming out and seeing the group though and Jim for stepping into the lead in more ways than one. It was a great group of hikers as well!

    April 18, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    @ All - Take a good look at your cloths and your self, today in the morning I found a tick stick in my chest.
    That really freak me out.

    April 18, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    Bad choice of shoes my first mistake, I feel that from the star but have to keep it going, them Tala and Drake decided no to follow me at the river crossing and have to go bag looking for them (1 hour-30 minutes lost + extra mille) Thanks to Dave that he spot them down the fire road it was easy to found them, they where just sitting together under a tree waiting for me to comeback, from there it was a solo hike for me following the trail didn't have time to smell the flowers or take pictures.

    April 18, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    It was hard but the wheater was great.

    April 18, 2011

  • Peter J.

    Wow, what a difference a day makes! I really enjoyed the rainy day version of this hike, but the weather was perfect Sunday. I see from Ted's pictures you were able to ford Madison run!

    April 18, 2011

  • Steve

    Glad dave made it and darwin found his dogs. STOKED for devils path.

    April 17, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    Thanks for the great hike & nice to meet you all!
    Some photos up here:
    https://picasaweb.google.com/limno.ted/Shenandoah_april11#

    April 17, 2011

  • Leah

    Great hiking with you all today. I did find a tick when I got home so I recommend all do a thorough check!

    April 17, 2011

  • Dave

    What an amazing weekend. First Peter, Rachael and I hiked the Big Run and Austin/Furnace portions of the planned route on Saturday in the wind and rain. Then I returned on Sunday in glorious weather and joined that day's crew for the Jones Run and Doyles River portions of their hike. I am soooooo glad I decided to do so. The waterfalls were absolutely incredible. So much water with so much power. We couldn't have picked a better day for this hike.

    April 17, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    Will be at Centreville Park&Ride tomorrow 5:30 AM.

    April 16, 2011

  • Dave

    Much of the trail we encountered today is composed of rocky soil so I don't think there will be too much of a problem with mud tomorrow.

    April 16, 2011

  • Dave

    Madison Run was a raging torrent. We had to hike about a half mile further down the road to a bridge. Once on the other side, we bushwacked back to the Furnace Mountain trail. Based upon this experience, we bypassed the Jones Run / Doyles River portion of the loop and returned to the parking area via the AT. It had been raining pretty much the whole time from the time we encountered the raging Madison run to when we arrived at the Jones Run turnoff. We figured it may also be a raging torrent.

    April 16, 2011

  • Dave

    Peter, Rachael and I did the hike today. The wind was howling so hard through the trees. I was expecting a tree or large branch to come down at any second but luckily none did. We did encounter a large tree that had recently come down but was stuck against another tree. As we watched it fell the remaining distance to the ground. And all three of us can attest ... it did make a sound. :-)

    April 16, 2011

  • Jim N.

    Lucas I live north of Baltimore so we can work something out but still have to drop by Centreville...give me a call[masked], thanks.

    April 16, 2011

  • Lucas

    I'll be meeting you all at Centerville at 5:30am, unless anyone is from Baltimore area and wants to carpool from there.

    April 15, 2011

  • Melissa

    I will NOT be meeting at the cville park and ride but will meet you all at the trailhead on sunday!

    April 15, 2011

  • Jim N.

    The weather report for the area is here:
    http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=38.26406296833961&lon=-78.64837646484375&site=lwx&unit=0&lg=en&FcstType=text
    Saturday's weather is definitely bad. Sunday is nice, but will still be windy, so it still will not be easy with a muddy trail and lots of wind on the open areas, so be prepared everyone!

    April 15, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    Holger, I can pick you up Sunday morning. Just send your address.

    April 15, 2011

  • Holger

    Hey guys,

    In case this one is really happening now on Sunday I wanted to ask if someone would be able to pick me up in DC (Mt. Pleasant)? Obviously, I can't make it to Centerville 5.30am with public transport. Alternatively, I can also get a zipcar and could pick up 3 of you guys in the morning on my way there and bring you home in the evening of course. You just chip in whatever you think is reasonable for the gas.
    Let me know.
    Thanks!

    April 15, 2011

  • Dave

    @ Darwin and Peter ... I prefer that those that can hike on Sunday do so with the group. I don't want to split this into two separate hikes.

    April 15, 2011

  • Peter J.

    I'm in for the rain hike, Dave, I'll send you an email.

    April 15, 2011

  • Dave

    @ Darwin and Melissa ... I was all for doing the hike on Saturday when the forecast called for 3/4 to 1 inch of rain. When I saw the updated forecast called for 1 to 2 inches of rain, I moved the hike to Sunday after discussing with Jim for a few reasons. The primary reason is with that much water on the trail, the multiple descents on the hike will be very slick and I don't want anyone getting hurt. A secondary reason is that we have a great forecast for Sunday, so why not take advantage.

    April 15, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    @ Melissa - Took the words right out of my mouth girl.

    April 15, 2011

  • Dave

    For those that can't make it on Sunday, I am willing to lead an ADDITIONAL hike in the rain on Saturday. If you are interested, send me an email and we can coordinate via email and phone.

    April 15, 2011

  • Dave

    The hike is now scheduled for Sunday, April 17 to avoid the heavy rain (1 - 2 inches forecast). Jim Newman has graciously agreed to lead the hike as I have another commitment that prevents me from doing so. I plan to meet everyone at the after hike meal at the Hazel River Inn. I may also start with everyone at 8:00am and but cut my hike short by doing only the Big Run loop. My apologies for the last minute change but it just seemed to be the correct thing to do.

    April 15, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    FWIW, I can't make it on Saturday.

    April 15, 2011

  • Melissa

    So...it would be really great to know the plan before 5pm today...can we all figure this out? I am able to go either day, but would like some notice. Rain or shine, doesnt matter to me, since this is technically a Devils Path training hike, and its not as if we will be able to change that hike due to rain...

    April 15, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    @ Rachel - Devil's Path will be in May 7.

    April 15, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    Not really sure about new date yet but will do my best to be there.

    April 15, 2011

  • Rachael

    Uh-oh, I was planning on doing this as a training hike for Devil's Path next month. Unfortunately I was under the impression it would be on Saturday, 4/16. There aren't folks doing it tomorrow, are there? (Plus I obviously hadn't RSVP'd either).

    April 15, 2011

  • Peter J.

    Sadly, I have a commitment Sunday. @ Dave, I'm not averse to hiking in the rain, would you be interested in giving it a shot? If it gets too crazy we have several shortcut options.

    April 15, 2011

  • Steve

    Thanks Dave! You will be missed but the soaking rain wont be.

    April 14, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    @ Dave - I'm whit you, as this is a "training" hike for several of us and "we" are a adventurer group weather is part of the adventure so let mother nature bring the rain, snow or the glorious sun.

    1 · April 12, 2011

  • Dave

    The current weather report calls for thunderstorms but does not indicate whether they are expected early or late. On Friday when we have a better report, I will be able to decide if we need to alter our plans. If thunderstorms are expected in the late afternoon, we will begin the hike as scheduled but we may shorten the route to avoid the bad weather. I do not plan to alter the current plan based solely on the threat of rain.

    April 12, 2011

  • Dave

    I just made a 5:30pm reservation at the Hazel River Inn sitting on the back deck and ordering from the pub menu. I hope everyone will be able to participate.

    April 11, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    It will be CLOSE just in the event of a wild fire or after 5 PM. to avoid poachers, so lets pray that doesn't happen.

    April 7, 2011

  • Steve

    Well there wont be anyone there to stop us if it IS closed :)

    April 6, 2011

  • Dave

    Technically, if the park is closed, hiking within the park is not permitted. Having said that, the loop we are hiking can be accessed from VA-663 just east of Grottoes, VA at coordinates N[masked] W78 46.418. We will only use this alternate starting point if forced to do so.

    April 6, 2011

  • Steve

    Here is a question... if the government shuts down this friday does SNP shut down skyline drive? In the last federal shutdowns national parks were closed / not sure if SNP was one of them.

    April 6, 2011

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