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Pres. Obama's Legacy: Success, Failure, or a Mixed Record?

  • Jul 13, 2014 · 6:00 PM
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Please read our attendance policy before RSVP-ing for this event.  This event is co-hosted with the NYC Politics meetup group.

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With the Midterm Elections looming, we're also closing in on the final two years of the Obama Administration — a twilight stage for modern two-term Presidents.

The final two years — as characterized by the punditry class as the "lame duck" period — starts the unofficial winding down of an Administration.  Many Presidential historians are quickly eager to point to the successes or failures in shaping the incumbent's Presidential legacy.

This month, we'll look back and examine the current Administration's accomplishments — or lack thereof — and debate whether the President's legacy ought to be:

• Praised as a success;

• Criticized for being marred with failures and incompetence; or

•  Lukewarmly shrugged off for being mired in mediocrity.

We'll discuss and evaluate the Administration's record with respect to the following three categories:

Topic I.  Handling of the economy, commerce, and budgetary matters

Topic II.  Domestic policies and programs

Topic III. Foreign policy and international affairs

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• Event Schedule
6:00 to 6:30 - Introductions, Meet and Greet
6:30 to 7:30 - Debate Topic I
7:30 to 8:30 - Debate Topic II
8:30 to 9:30 - Debate Topic III
9:30 to 10:00 - Post-Event Social


Debate Format
- Similar to the televised Presidential "townhall" debate format.
- Approximately six debate participants on each side; the remaining attendees will be part of the townhall audience.
- The townhall audience members can also ask questions directly to either debate groups.
- New debate participants will be selected for each of the three topics.
- There's no mandatory requirement to participate or actively debate -- so attendees can sit back and observe.

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VENUE INFORMATION

Here's a photo of the building entrance:

Once you enter the building, proceed to the banquet ("Amenities") room, as shown below:

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Because the event is held at a private venue, you'll be notified one day before the event with additional information, including the building address.

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  • Jesse N.

    Good to meet you all last night. If I can make it to the next meeting (hopefully), I will have to come prepared with a a bunch of facts in order to make a truly worthy case. I look forward to the challenge--and at the moment, I don't even know where I stand on immigration! I'll have to figure that out. -Jesse

    July 14, 2014

  • thomas k

    Thanks to everyone for attending. The art of debate is and always will be about the rhetoric and dissent. All of you showcased this brilliantly today and I look forward to another round of passionate debates next month.

    July 14, 2014

  • thomas k

    Hi everyone, here are three final reminders for today.

    July 13, 2014

    • Michael T.

      I rsvp'd after the email with details went out. Can you message them to me? [masked]

      July 13, 2014

    • thomas k

      @Michael, message re-sent.

      July 13, 2014

  • thomas k

    I've sent a direct message to all attendees with the event details for tomorrow. If you haven't received the message, please let me know.

    July 12, 2014

  • Jesse N.

    Hey Disco Stu! Sorry... I mean, Hi Thomas K! This will be my first meeting with the group, and I'm wondering if all participants are required to debate. I would love to be part of the town hall to ask questions wherever I think specifics have been overlooked, but I don't think I could prepare a strong argument for either side before Sunday. I plan to debate in future events, but for my first, I'd prefer to observe and meet people. Is that OK? Or should my spot go to someone who definitely wants to debate? Many thanks! -Jesse

    July 11, 2014

    • thomas k

      Hi Jesse, welcome to the group! We never require mandatory participation, so you can passively sit back and observe, or ask pointed questions as an audience member whenever you wish. Look forward to seeing you this Sunday.

      July 11, 2014

    • Deanne R.

      Hi thanks for this question - I feel the same way - to sit out and observe the first debate since I have never attended before - but would love to debate in the. Next one!

      July 11, 2014

  • thomas k

    Hi everyone, I'll send out an email around 6pm tomorrow with the building address and other relevant information. I do it this way because the event is held at a private venue and I prefer not to post the building address here.

    Also, if you cannot attend, please be sure to update your RSVP -- we follow a strict RSVP policy and this helps us to anticipate how many attendees to expect.

    July 11, 2014

  • Sheila

    Questions regarding the format:

    1. Will each person be limited to debating one topic? That would be a surprise and a bummer. We have always been allowed to debate all the topics.

    2. How will the twelve debate participants be selected for each topic? Will they be allowed to choose a side?

    July 10, 2014

    • thomas k

      Sheila,Here's what I have in mind -- the answers in reverse order:

      2) The debate participants can select either side of their own choosing.

      1) There's no limit as to how many topics a debater can participate in, so a member can debate all three topics if they choose to do so. I also want to give everyone a chance to participate in the debates as much as possible -- so I may expand the debate teams from six participants to ten participants, if needed.

      July 10, 2014

  • thomas k

    Greetings, fellow debaters! Four more days until the event and looking forward to it! Included above are additional event details, such as the event schedule and the debate format (located directly above the "Venue Information" section of the event description).

    July 9, 2014

  • rory m.

    Only a few days left. Is there enough information to frame your debate..

    July 9, 2014

  • Paula

    Wish I could come.

    July 3, 2014

    • thomas k

      Sorry to hear that you can't attend. Hope to see you at the next one!

      July 4, 2014

  • rory m.

    We can debate in between the game..

    July 3, 2014

  • florent

    Hi There! Just like you I love debating and I have created a tool to share opinion and ultimately amplify people's voice. It's called opinionslice.com
    We would love your feedback and feel free to continue discussing President Obama's Legacy on opinionslice with the rest of the world!

    July 3, 2014

  • thomas k

    For all fùtbol fans -- I've changed the event start time, as I just found out that the World Cup Final Match begins at 3pm on July 13th.

    July 2, 2014

  • thomas k

    Hi there -- the event is at a private venue, located about three blocks away from the Columbus Circle. Instead of posting the building address on the event page, I'll be sending out a direct email to all attendees one day before the event with the building address and other pertinent information.

    Hope to see you at this event!

    June 23, 2014

  • teresa

    hello, please let me know the location.

    June 23, 2014

  • rory m.

    I will volunteer to be the time keeper......

    1 · June 8, 2014

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