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RE: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - Greyhart Apr 20, 2014 8:57 PM
Re: [witches-1411] path of the priest/ess - Perhaps you could start the conversation by sharing what we do......... Bonnie Bonnie Apr 20, 2014 3:59 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Bullies & Bad Behavior - I didn't feel it needed a response.. as it had nothing to do with the issue at hand.. what to do about a member in our community who overstepped their boundaries.. still haven't heard the answer though Kaitte Apr 20, 2014 1:25 PM
path of the priest/ess - Michelle B. Apr 20, 2014 1:11 PM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - If you look at established interfaith councils, they often have members outside the Christian faith: Bahai, Islam, Judaism, as well as members from Bonnie Apr 20, 2014 12:51 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Neo-pagan interfaith alliance - Michelle, et.al., Much of what you ta William Ashton, I. Apr 20, 2014 12:50 PM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying -  Michelle B. Apr 20, 2014 12:47 PM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - Michelle B. Apr 20, 2014 12:41 PM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - Michelle, There is no set number of Elders. There will be a list of different belief Elders compiled. And from that list San Elder who is most suited to the question will answer. Of course there might be a few that could be posted. Jim M. Apr 20, 2014 12:33 PM
Neo-pagan interfaith alliance - Michelle B. Apr 20, 2014 12:24 PM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying -  Michelle B. Apr 20, 2014 12:15 PM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying -  Michelle B. Apr 20, 2014 11:43 AM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - Gwynalda Apr 20, 2014 9:29 AM
Re: Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - Hope this will post OK. I don't use Windows Live and had to do a littl Deanna Apr 20, 2014 9:24 AM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - "Elders" is just as the word implies. Whether male or female. Someone who has served our people for many a year and has some knowledge & insight. As for "Level of Authority". Our role is just advisor, counselor Jim M. Apr 20, 2014 8:46 AM
RE: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - Greyhart Apr 20, 2014 8:19 AM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - Bonnie - I did not let it pass unnoticed, puffin Apr 20, 2014 12:29 AM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - Well, since it is Sagebear doing the work on it, I suppose it is similar to his original idea. Rhiannon D. Apr 19, 2014 10:46 PM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - I think its probably better to be a contributing force than to throw more gasoline on the fire... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: Gwynalda <[address removed]> Sender: David C. Apr 19, 2014 10:32 PM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - Gwynalda Apr 19, 2014 10:24 PM
RE: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - It seems like the monastic religions have texts to guide them. Their leaders interpret the texts and make them relevant to the community-- Like when a pastor writes a Sunday sermon designed to Snow Apr 19, 2014 9:08 PM
RE: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - Greyhart Apr 19, 2014 8:29 PM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - Greyhart, I would be VERY concerned if we as a free people did not question and give some resistance to having anyone have any auth Cynthia K. Apr 19, 2014 6:59 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - I'm a warrior. I'm not Wiccan. However, I do understand at least the meaning I take from the rede's Beverly A. Apr 19, 2014 12:15 PM
RE: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - Greyhart Apr 19, 2014 8:44 AM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - Having read some of the posts after this, I will say it's good to see people clarify their positions on the "harm none" philosophy (i.e. Self defense, protecting others, etc). It's good to see people "show their teeth" now & then. It's good fo David C. Apr 18, 2014 10:58 PM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - "For Bonnie Apr 18, 2014 5:18 PM
RE: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - Greyhart Apr 18, 2014 4:22 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - Sin, "The whole 'do no harm' thing.... That belongs to you guys." I'm sure that probably upset a few folks. Therein lies the whole problem with a "council" idea. We all have our own frame of reference. I still th David C. Apr 18, 2014 1:15 PM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - Bonnie Apr 18, 2014 11:10 AM
Re: witches-1411] Community Attitudes - @font-face{font-family:Calibri;­panose-1:[masked];} In response to the bully nonsense... this is soooooo... typical Nebraska politics! Sad to say I spent my first six school years in a small town in Nebraska Laurel Apr 18, 2014 10:45 AM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - Michelle B. Apr 18, 2014 10:28 AM
RE: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - Greyhart Apr 18, 2014 9:30 AM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - No wonder it reminded me of my parents' advice...it was around 1970 in Nebraska when they first said to me "ignore them and they will go away". *derisive laugh* Rhiannon D. Apr 18, 2014 7:09 AM
Bullies & Bad Behavior - Gwynalda Apr 18, 2014 3:43 AM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - Well, apparently, the school that sent that bullying f sabel Apr 18, 2014 1:35 AM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - I actually think this committee should go a step further in its mission. They shouldn't limit themselves to standing up for sexual ethics and Phil Apr 17, 2014 11:59 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - Kattie, the info you posted on statutory rape is incorrect. There has to be a specific age difference which depends on the age of the victim Phil Apr 17, 2014 11:37 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - I forgot to say that one of the most lively discussions and lessons the Covenant has is the difference between hurt and harm. We always strive to live up to "harm none" b Rhiannon D. Apr 17, 2014 11:33 PM
Re: [witches-1411] 1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - I really appreciate and like the statement that you have developed. Thank you for your hard work, especially given other things you are experiencing. B Rhiannon D. Apr 17, 2014 11:24 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - Exactly Sin, one part of the Rede that seems to be lost often is "except in thine own defense it be, ever mind the rule of three. " to me this extends to coven, family Rhiannon D. Apr 17, 2014 11:19 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - I think the three fold law is being forgotten here. Do something and it returns threefold. (No it isn't black and white). Simply Cynthia K. Apr 17, 2014 11:12 PM
1st Run at Sexual Ethics Statements, Harm None, and Bullying - One and all, Let me begin my apologizin William Ashton, I. Apr 17, 2014 11:11 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - Greyhart - sabel Apr 17, 2014 10:41 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - That's good to know Gned. However Odin teaches us to wear our words, and speak wisely or be silent. Do not initiate Sin Apr 17, 2014 10:41 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - Well the libertarian version of "do no harm" (our Non-Aggr Gned the G. Apr 17, 2014 10:33 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - Just remember, if your being bullied, abused, or a victim of anything... Harm none! This is exactly what I was talki Sin Apr 17, 2014 10:29 PM
Re: RE: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - This is the same as telling an abused spouse to placate his/her abuser or telling the kid who is being molested that it's their fault and they have no right to be angry. Rhiannon D. Apr 17, 2014 10:15 PM
RE: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - having been the victim of school bullying as well as currently being the victim of work place bullying... I do find this rather difficult to accept... just in my opinion. ----- Original Message ----- From: G Christopher H. M. Apr 17, 2014 9:54 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - Seriously? Tuff love? Suck it up? Don't upset the bully? Cynthia K. Apr 17, 2014 9:42 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - I don't Sent from my iPad Cynthia K. Apr 17, 2014 9:28 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - I am not complaining, just offering a different opinion. The whole "do no harm" thing.... That belongs to you guys. That is not apart of my path or Sin Apr 17, 2014 9:06 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - Kaitte, I see both of your responses as legitimate follow up to the Subject of "Fo Jim Apr 17, 2014 9:05 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - Oh One more thing.. you all know you can even have those problems within the adult communities as far as unwanted/co-erced sex by either parties.. since I don't know if the original two were both over 18 or one was .. but whenever a mal Kaitte Apr 17, 2014 8:50 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - Well I had a list of things I thought were short/uncomplicated.. sent to William when he asked and I've yet to have seen it posted.. I've seen all the complaints though.. so what happened to it? did it get lost i Kaitte Apr 17, 2014 8:38 PM
RE: [witches-1411] Community Attitudes - Greyhart Apr 17, 2014 4:48 PM
RE: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - I would agree. There is no need for disrespect. Respect is i Soltahr Apr 16, 2014 8:33 AM
Re: RE: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - I'm glad I took a minute before responding puffin Apr 16, 2014 1:28 AM
Ethics and Sexuality… an ongoing dialogue - Brothers and sisters, Differentiating b William Ashton, I. Apr 15, 2014 11:08 PM
Re: RE: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee -  Michelle B. Apr 15, 2014 10:59 PM
Re: RE: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Again, Greyhart, I applaud you. I, and my group, are also most definitely not Wiccan for the same reasons. I have stayed out of the community to avoid the mind numb Rhiannon D. Apr 15, 2014 9:22 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - William-- Gwynalda Apr 15, 2014 7:22 PM
RE: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Greyhart Apr 15, 2014 5:18 PM
(no subject) - Thank you so very much Beth & Bonnie. All this whoopla back & forth is vetting to be a bit much. Some of the pontificating especially. Thank you both again. Jim M. Apr 15, 2014 4:59 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - I agree that it should be simple, and, in my opinion personal. We shouldn't think we can speak for others. My impression was that it Bonnie Apr 15, 2014 4:47 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - I agree, Cynthia. I kept thinking "Sex is Sacred" last night. That is where any of what we say as a Beverly A. Apr 15, 2014 9:18 AM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Beautifully stated, Cynthia. Thank you! Brightest Blessings, Janet/Rhi Sent from Rhiannon D. Apr 15, 2014 7:10 AM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Since there is a quietness in the discussion I will draw br Cynthia K. Apr 15, 2014 3:12 AM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Cultural change requires conflict. Conflict is a natural part of developing consensus among dispara Beverly A. Apr 14, 2014 5:42 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Maintaining focus - I'm really not trying to be difficult, but rather want to understand....... How would those out of the closet be advocates Bonnie Apr 14, 2014 5:06 PM
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Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - I would be agreeable to this approach. It addresses the problems without the appearance of one group trying to impose its standards or view of morality on others. If a group has to be formed, a group seen as an advisory body would be better re David C. Apr 14, 2014 10:30 AM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee -  Michelle B. Apr 14, 2014 10:13 AM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee -  Michelle B. Apr 13, 2014 11:17 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Maintaining focus - Thanks for this clarification. I thi puffin Apr 13, 2014 10:33 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - I disagree, Greyheart. For starters I can' puffin Apr 13, 2014 10:15 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Maintaining focus - Bonnie, et.al., Standing openly as comm William Ashton, I. Apr 13, 2014 10:04 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Agreed, Greyheart! Well said. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App ----- Original Message ----- From: [address removed] To: [address removed] Sent:Mon Apr 14 12:28:31 UTC 2014 Subject: RE: [wit Kestrel Apr 13, 2014 9:51 PM
Re: RE: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - I for one strongly believe that a statement should be made - at the last. I also like the idea of a council. If this council truly represents a smattering of a variety of pagan faiths it would actually serve as projection b Arwynne (. Apr 13, 2014 8:28 PM
RE: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - The White Witch is interested in this Council and being a member. Greyhart I believe is the one I need to speak with. Contact info: http://www.facebook.com/TheWhi­teWitch White W. Apr 13, 2014 8:21 PM
Re: RE: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Does an adult conversation/discussion always end up like this? On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Rhiannon Dragcruin < Kaitte Apr 13, 2014 8:11 PM
Re: RE: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Thank you Greyhart.. every time I turned around there was another one.and then another one.I went on an interview and when I got home.5 more.I'm thinking what is all this crap and why are they doing it? I'm sure William is having a Kaitte Apr 13, 2014 8:10 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Greyhart, I have known you a long damn time now. I have challenged you personally, and publicly. Your words below fill me with prid Sin Apr 13, 2014 8:09 PM
Re: RE: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Thank you, Greyhart, for speaking my own very frustrated thoughts. I applaud you! Janet/Rhi Rhiannon D. Apr 13, 2014 8:06 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - I like those too, Kat! Thank you for sharing them. :-) Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Rhiannon D. Apr 13, 2014 8:02 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Yes, we need a statement from a group of respected leaders to give a public opinion to counteract the possible negative impact of the recent events on ourselves and our pa Rhiannon D. Apr 13, 2014 7:51 PM
RE: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Ok. I wasn't even at the last meet up, but, I do think that a statement of some sort from our community IS in order! I've been seeing the messages all day and thinking and meditating on what, if anything I would say. Rosemary R. Apr 13, 2014 6:39 PM
RE: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Greyhart Apr 13, 2014 6:28 PM
RE: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Preview not available Beth Apr 13, 2014 6:04 PM
RE: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Greyhart Apr 13, 2014 5:47 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Having been a therapist who worked with both adults and minor who committed sex offenses -  There are what we call the 5 equals that we teach offenders about Equal Knowledge Equal Capacity Katherine Apr 13, 2014 5:35 PM
Re:[witches-1411] Maintaining focus - what does standing openly mean? Original Message=================== One and all, Please keep i Bonnie Apr 13, 2014 3:06 PM
My take on the core ethical principles - was Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Very interesting conversation, I gather that something bad Gned the G. Apr 13, 2014 2:25 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Well said Phil. Mari Mari Apr 13, 2014 1:43 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Phil, the things you outlined below for into what I was talking about with Inappropriate Coercion. On Apr 13, 2014, at 11:18 A Sin Apr 13, 2014 12:32 PM
Maintaining focus - One and all, Please keep in mind the SP William Ashton, I. Apr 13, 2014 12:22 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - I am so new to this whole thing I'm still reading my first book on the practice of Wicca, but since I received these emails I will pu jacquie b. Apr 13, 2014 12:11 PM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - How do I get off of this mailing list? On Apr 13,[masked]:18 AM, Michelle Bowman <[address removed]> kristine and Abhi G. Apr 13, 2014 11:23 AM
Re: [witches-1411] Follow-up for Sexual Ethics Committee - Michelle B. Apr 13, 2014 11:21 AM

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