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Who will control the soul of the Democratic Party?

A former member
Post #: 1
I have not heard anything lately in either the mainstream or the progressive press about what is going on behind the scenes for leadership of the DNC. Since the 90s, the DNC has been led by those folks who refer to themselves as the "New Democrats", otherwise known as the Democratic Leadership Council(http://www.ndol.org/)...­. For those interested, here are a few articles about how they operate and what they stand for which is why Democrats are constantly on the losing end of elections!!(http://www.buzzflash....­)

In any event, if Democrats are going to be able to act, talk and be Real Democrats, a Real Democrat is going to have to head the party and have substantial support of REAL Democrats up and down the political chain. That means at the local level, state and national level, there has to be a changing of the guard where needed.

For example, there are local party leaders who have been in charge for decades, who do not posses the necesary skills (strategic planning, hi-tech, etc.) or the will, to change things for what many of us, would consider for the better. It is their attitude that ..'we have always done it this way and if I want your opinion, I will tell you what it is!'

Most of these folks have done a fantastic job over the years and made many sacrifices which are greatly appreciated. However, there comes a time when if you do the same thing over and over and always loose, it might be time to try something different! (Sorry, I am beginning to ramble....let me get off my soapbox.)

What would be helpful is to hear from DFA/Dr Dean and allies, what we can do to help at the grass roots level. As they know, we can be a very formidable presence locally and there are many of us who are looking for an opportunity/guidance to start making changes. A sense of direction from Dr Dean at this point would be very helpful because changes in party leaders positions are beginning to take place now and we don't want to miss this opportunity to start taking our party back!!
A former member
Post #: 41
Here's a perspective on Gov. Dean from those who would like to see him DNC Chairman but not from the 'faithful' perspective:
http://www.intellectu...­
And another perspective from a 'Deaniac':
http://www.opednews.c...­

Here's other news:
http://www.newsday.co...­

http://www.nytimes.co...­

http://washingtontime...­

AND AFTER IT IS ALL DONE, CORPORATIONS WILL STILL CONTROL THE AGENDA OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. UNTIL THAT ASPECT OF THE ELECTORAL SYSTEM IS ADDRESSED, CHANGE FROM WITHIN IS A PLAY UPON THE MYTH OF SISYPHUS.
A former member
Post #: 2
ubetchaiam,

thanks for making my point more clear! Until REAL DEMOCRATS take back the party from the DLC and their corporate sponsors, we are not going to have a choice of candidates in coming elections. We will only have candidates hand-picked by the DLC!

Keep in mind that the leadership of the Democratic National Committee...postion of chair, 5 vice chairs, etc, plus just about all leadership positions throughout the party at the state and local level will be decided over the past 2-5 months!!! You better believe that the DLC has it sight set on each and every one of those positions.

Does anyone know anybody who thought that John Kerry (DLC pick) was the best candidate that the Democratic party had to offer? I don't. And guess what...unless we act now, we will end up with him or someone to the right of him in 2008. The DLC has already published articles stating the reason the Democratic party lost the presidential race and so many seats in the house and senate is because the candidates were not conservative enough. Their recommendation is that candidates better be more conservative and church going if they want to win in the future.

Does anyone agree that we need more conservative candidates in the future? I certainly don't!

So, we have a choice....we can either wait for the next election cycle then try to engage in the process after all is pretty much settled, like this last election cycle, OR we can get involved immediately, be in positions where we can have a positive impact on during the next election cycle and beyond.

If we believe and work smart, we can effect change in the process. It is certainly not going to happen over night. After all, conservatives have spent at least 3 decades developing their institutions and message. As we all know, they have done an extremely effective job! So, it is going to take us a generation or so to get our democracy back.

However, if we want change we will have to work very smart and hard to accomplish it. I believe it starts at the grass roots level and spreads upwards. This means real democrats and/or progressives gaining positions of leadership in each township, city and county organization, in each state assembly/senate district, each congressional district and each school district. It means everyone working together with set goals...short-term, long-term, and longer-term, it means a strategic plan in place so everyone is on the same page.

It also means defined issues framed so that they are effective, easy to understand, and explain the role taxes for example have played and continue to play in the existance and
advancement of our country! (George Lakoff, Prof of Linguistics at UC Berkeley, has done excellent work on the progressive message and is willing to do more.)

DFA has over 1.3 million folks on their meet-up list. Many of us know another 5-10 people that would like to join up to help make a positive change in the country. With the talents/resources that all these folks bring to the table, not to mention the many other like-minded organizations and their people, we have the makings of a considerable movement for change.

We need a leader or group of leaders with vision to harness this power on the national level and get us moving NOW! If not, then let us do what we need to do on the local level and let it spread from there.

It would be such a dissapointing waste for Dean and/or other leaders not to see our value for change.

carowe3








Here's a perspective on Gov. Dean from those who would like to see him DNC Chairman but not from the 'faithful' perspective:
http://www.intellectu...­
And another perspective from a 'Deaniac':
http://www.opednews.c...­

Here's other news:
http://www.newsday.co...­

http://www.nytimes.co...­

http://washingtontime...­

AND AFTER IT IS ALL DONE, CORPORATIONS WILL STILL CONTROL THE AGENDA OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. UNTIL THAT ASPECT OF THE ELECTORAL SYSTEM IS ADDRESSED, CHANGE FROM WITHIN IS A PLAY UPON THE MYTH OF SISYPHUS.

A former member
Post #: 47
I'm one of those people who don't perceive the Democratic Party 'reforming' quickly enough to do any good; just too much corruption too deeply embedded.
So what to do? Well, DFA is a start-in my perspective- of developing a non partisan organization that provides campaign funding to any candidate that 'signs on' to a political platform(being developed;please see the post in the meeting reminder called 'It's the White Vote,Stupid'); the label of the Party their with is irrelevant as long as the sign on to the ideas clearly rpomoted.
How do you like the name 'Independent Voters Co-Operative'?
And one of the first things I'd like to see is a revision of the San Diego City Charter regarding elections and putting in IVR for such elections.
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