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Thoughts on Oughts

[Please note: this is one of our "select" meetings, featuring a smaller number of participants and a more enjoyable discussion experience; hence the higher fee, which does not include dinner. Hey, this is New York!] 

David Hume famously argued that one cannot derive an ought from an is, i.e. a value from a fact. But recently the notion of an is/ought divide has been challenged. Whether the challenges have been successful, however, remains to be seen... (Here is the suggested reading to get you started.)

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  • Gregg

    hi, I am unexpectedly stuck at work tonight. sorry for the last minute cancel. hopefully somebody can take my slot.

    gregg

    January 14, 2014

  • William C.

    Is there an opening for this meetup?

    January 13, 2014

    • Massimo

      Not so far, sorry.

      January 13, 2014

  • Dana

    Hi I am willing to host a meeting in my UWS office anyone interested?

    December 26, 2013

    • Esta A.

      Massimo, I want you to know that looking from the outside into this group conversation, it gives me even more confidence that having very little experience in philosophy and a new religion-free understanding of life, to see you keep this group under your leadership and choices. I feel it is to others benefit having listened to several of your Rationally Speaking podcasts and attending the 100th Episode taping and your request to others to start their own group and set up a meeting. I find you to be very empathetic to others and even offered them a solution to start their own group to set up meetings if this one is full. The above comment, along with the denial of others to move on to a different meeting group when this fills up, proves to me I would rather wait as I have been then trust meeting with others blindly. I feel there is a lack of respect, honor and empathy here for you and a disregard for your wishes.

      1 · January 3, 2014

    • Esta A.

      You making yourself publically available to others in so many ways. I do not see a problem with you ever respecting someone's opinion, even a new student who presents a logical argument. An accusation of cult leader deduced from saying "expert philosopher" was the worst stretch I have ever-heard. I found it quite comical. I would never trust my development as a more rational thinker after having the experience of undoing religion of 4 decades to just any conversationalist. There is a methodology I'm assuming anyway in being rational, just like I wouldn't take my child to a doctor who hangs a shingle with the pre-fix of Doctor to their name. I would say the very same thing as a pharmacist about medications management abilities. Bravo, Massimo. Sincerely, Esta Ann Ammerman. PS, I've been waiting since October without a problem. lol

      1 · January 3, 2014

  • Bronislaw

    I understand the role of small meetings and of the pleasure of a good dinner. There is, however, a solution. There are 3 organizers of this group. Therefore its possible to organize 3 simultaneous groups each led by one organizers, in three different restaurants and have the discussion of the same topic in each. That would accomodate at least 18 people. We could post after the meeting the highlights of each of the groups.

    The need for the solution is that apart from the pleasurable experience for 6, the division creates very unpleasant feelings for the rest of the interested, which should not be associated with something something so profound and important as free philosophical discussion.

    December 27, 2013

    • joy

      Bronislaw, your intention is kind and appreciated... but your proposal is equivalent to saying to David Letterman "since you can only accomodate two guests in one episode of your show, why not letting me and others help you out?" : )

      December 27, 2013

    • Massimo

      Brownislaw, I have no idea whether my colleagues have any intention in participating in meetups, though my hunch is that they don't (or they would have already done so). Again, it's gratifying that there is so much interest in philosophy, but this meetup has worked very well in its format for years, and I like to keep it that way.

      1 · December 27, 2013

  • Judy

    As Brandwell Teuscher (Swiss... Not German) says, perhaps aspiring philosophers read THINK by Dr Samuel Blackburn. If you can't cut that switch to Wittgenstein's works and quit trying to answer the unanswerable.

    December 27, 2013

  • Dana

    In keeping with the integrity of the group I like the idea of several groups meeting separately tts an interest that I feel needs to be accessible

    December 27, 2013

    • Massimo

      Dana, actually, it is precisely the integrity of the group I wish to preserve by not multiplying the number of meetups to which I cannot attend. Remember that there are several other philosophy meetups in the city, using different formats for their discussions. And of course anyone can start a meetup on any topic, any time.

      December 27, 2013

    • Judy

      Massimo you have been very patient with all these comments. It's your group do what you wish And as far as I'm concerned, you don't have to keep explaining yourself.

      4 · December 27, 2013

  • Dana

    I would be happy to

    December 26, 2013

  • Judy

    COULD SOMEONE PLEASE BEGIN ANOTHER MEETUP ESP SINCE THERE NOW A PLACE TO MEET?

    December 26, 2013

  • Dana

    am I mistaken, but reads that the meeting is full

    December 26, 2013

    • Massimo

      You are not mistaken, but I honestly fail to see the relevance.

      December 26, 2013

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