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MOURN on the 4th of July!

jerry leonard
Posted Jul 4, 2008 12:40 PM
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another perspective... somewhat dated...


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In our day taxes are ten times as great as they were in 1776, illiteracy is also about ten times as great (compare an 8th grade final exam from 1776 with an exam from today's public schools), and the State is incomparably more unGodly. Can anyone seriously maintain that America under George XI (or whoever the king might have been had we remained British) could have been any worse than America under Clinton I?
Steve K.
Posted Jul 4, 2008 5:20 PM
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well, I guess I'm a bit skeptical as to what the state of this country (colony?) would be had we stayed under British rule. I guess since it's a bit of a ridiculous hypothetical, I'm still glad (despite all the crap) to have been born in this country -- and I recognize the great responsibility (and burden) that comes with that.

Anyway, here's another sobering reminder on "Independence Day" that caused me to rethink "freedom" and "democracy," written by an Emergent friend who works with ServLife in South Africa:
http://twoandtwomakes...
jerry leonard
Posted Sep 1, 2008 12:02 PM
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your link reminded me of a book i read years ago:

http://www.amazon.com...

although far from perfect, i think the "founding fathers" were geniuses compared to us.

i was just reading this morning how radical they really were... by signing the declaration of independence, they were literally signing their death sentences (treason against the king), should the revolution have failed. i guess it's good to have friends behind the lodge door...
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