Political Correctness

How did all this start?  Has some sort of Political Correctness always been there throughout history?  Is it dangerous to be politically incorrect?  Are the thought police gaining in power?  How does it impact free speech?  Do you feel like you can say anything without consequence?  What about challenging the power structure, how safe is that now days?  Is it good that everybody agree on most things?  Does it unify the state, or does it make the little people more manageable.  Ask yourself how easily do I accept ideas like global warming, peace on earth, equality, social justice, capitalism, socialism, botulism, libertarianism, strong defense, terrorist threat, forcing vegetables on children, and banning oversize sodas.


Focus Test:  If you read the above paragraph and the word "botulism" stuck out as out of place your have a high degree of critical thinking skills and are probably not susceptible to political correctness.  If you missed it you are probably tired and need a cup of coffee.

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  • Barry F.

    Perfect example of oppressive PC… Ground Zero Cross: Court presses atheist group to explain why artifact is 'offensive'
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/06/21/ground-zero-cross/

    1 · June 21, 2014

    • James

      Like the Christians who are offended when someone dares to say "Happy holidays." (Ignoring that the word holiday derives from holy day)

      June 22, 2014

    • James

      Barry. I found what you were referencing about "hate speech laws." http://www.newsmax.co...­ The proposed bill would not criminalize any speech not does he assert there are currently any laws in the US against "hate speech." He merely express the view that legally suppressing hate speech is wrong (a view I agree with). We do not, however, offends the First Amendment when we condemn, by our own freedom of speech, the speech of others that is hateful. Indeed, we have a duty to speak out against hateful speech. Both parties, however, remain free to speak in that context.

      June 22, 2014

  • Barry F.

    If I was one of those who dominated the conversation I apologize. Personally, I was pleased to see everyone contributing to the conversation in meaningful ways.

    1 · June 21, 2014

  • Dr. Linda G.

    While the discussion was lively, for me it lacked a certain intellectual overtone and seemed to focus more on the legal ramifications of PC. The illustrations of the effects of our PC society were spot-on but I felt that a couple of attendees dominated the discussion to the exclusion of others.

    June 21, 2014

    • James

      What points would you like to have discussed more? I prefer discussing the societal impacts of political correctness, as well, but people often argue what is legal to say, not its impacts, which is why I first tried to delineate the three general aspects of speech controls: government, employer, and social. The social aspect is more abstract and less legalistic and is what I was more interested in.

      June 21, 2014

    • Andy

      I agree with you Linda, I think the males (who shall remain nameless, myself included) were a bit overdomeneering and inconsiderate to the more civilized females in the group. Thanks for pointing that out. Once again it is proven that males are flawed. Darn. Maybe if Joan had elbowed Jim things could have gone in a different direction until he recovered. (Gosh I hope I didn't just commit conspiracy). But seriously, I know people come to participate and when they don't feel like they have a chance it is annoying.

      June 21, 2014

  • Dr. Linda G.

    Great topic, interesting conversation.

    June 21, 2014

  • Barry F.

    Great turnout... Very interesting information shared.

    June 21, 2014

  • john g.

    A little heated at some points but very interesting.

    1 · June 21, 2014

  • James

    There are three categories of speech restrictions here: governments, businesses, and "society."

    Government may restrict virtually no speech, save for very limited exceptions (falsely crying "fire" in a crowded theater, etc.). Businesses may restrict the speech of their employees, even off the clock. An employee may be terminated for saying things that jeopardize their employer's interests, for example, such as one who is a member of the KKK or espouses views that the employer finds deplorable. That is not an issue of free speech - without consequences - it is an issue of the employer able to fire those they decide compromise their profits.

    June 21, 2014

  • Dr. Linda G.

    Does anyone remember the early days of TV and the strict censorship that was in place at that time. I'm not sure this was THE start of political correctness but that does seem to be where we find ourselves at this time. And, no in this climate I do not feel I can say anything I want to without consequences. I've seen too many examples. Re: "botulism" ha ha guys, I did see it and thought the author was playing with my mind a bit. But, that's ok.

    June 19, 2014

    • Andy

      It seems like things were not as politically charged as they are now. There are so many issues now that are clearly divided between left and right. It seems people like to be in one camp or the other and it seems like they want to dominate each other. Not as much tolerance as before. If a company doesn't support politically correct views it will be attacked or it's advertisers will be pressured. The lack of tolerance seems to be more of a problem than the issues they are fighting about. I did not see this 30 years ago.

      1 · June 20, 2014

    • James

      That it did not appear to you then did not mean it did not exist then. If someone said they were atheist, communist, supported gay rights, dared to fly the flag of another country, etc., you can be sure they would be roundly ostracized. During World War II, several German words were politically incorrect, such as sauerkraut, and "patriotic" people did not utter those words.

      June 21, 2014

  • Jetta L O.

    Can I carpool with someone, I live at Eastern & Marconi, I can drive to your house. Thanks Jetta[masked]

    June 20, 2014

  • Nancy B.

    Wish I could be there as this is a very important topic. How can we be free individuals in a society insidiously influenced by political correctness?

    June 14, 2014

    • Barry F.

      Wish you COULD (pathetic omission) come, too.

      June 15, 2014

    • Andy

      Barry, just to let you know if you make a typo, and then post it you can delete the post completely and retype or copy paste a new one.

      June 16, 2014

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