Re: [french-835] meet up mercredi 11 mars 19h30

From: user 2.
Sent on: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:55 PM
Bonsoir Vera et tous,
 
Thanks very much for the Google translation. I've just done a comparison myself - using the well-known passage from DeGaulle's memoirs that I posted in our files section recently - and I think Google is a little better than dictionary.com so it wil become my first choice.
 
If a beginner is trying to use French messages as learning aids and has a little more time available, they might be better served by a programme that glosses individual words rather than translating globally. This is provided if you register (free of charge) on www.wordchamp.com and paste a passage into the `Text' box of their `Web reader'. Just placing the cursor over a single word provides one or more suggested English equivalents. The drawbacks are that accents must be correct or words won't be recognised and also that the programme can't cope with pairs of words run together by elision - e.g. m'interesse [interests me] in Marc's original posting. 
 
Amiti?s
 
John
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vera" <[address removed]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 10,[masked]:51 AM
Subject: Re: [french-835] meet up mercredi 11 mars 19h30

Hi sweety, John,

I have tried a few online translators and I find that the Google
translator (
http://translate.google.com/) also works pretty well. It
seems to be more lenient towards the accents.

Here's the translation of Marc's message (copy and pasted to the translator):

========================
Thank you very much for the invitation to come to the Alliance
Francaise located in Kowloon for a Francophone meeting on Wednesday 11
March to come. Unfortunately, I can not attend this time but it
interests me a lot to meet other French speakers living in Hong Kong.
Is it that you could let me know, please, when there will be other
meetings francophones, and if so will also the Alliance Francaise
located in Wan Chai (because I live in this neighborhood it) ?
========================

Still not perfect but since each translator works differently, one
translator may make up for what's lacking on the other.

Cheers,
--Vera

2009/3/9 John <
[address removed]>:
> Dear sweety
>
> Because the whole idea of this meetup is to practise French, we normally try
> to minimise the use of English, even though this causes difficulty to
> beginners. Guyazn (Kwan) was letting us know about a French conversation
> session at the Alliance Francaise in Jordan at 7.30 on Wednesday and Marc
> explained he wasn't free then but hoped to join one of the Alliance's
> sesions in future, preferably at the Alliance's Wanchai branch
>
> If you can't fully understand a message you can paste into an on-line
> translator. The one at
www.dictionary.com (selecting their `Full text
> Translator' on the opening page) gives this for Marc's message:
>
> Thank you very much for the invitation to the Alliance fran1caise situee has
> to come has Kowloon for a French-speaking meeting this Wednesday March 11
> which comes. Unfortunately, I will not be able to assist this time to with
> it but Ca interests me much to meet other French-speaking people living has
> HongKong. Could you announce to me, please, when there will be other
> French-speaking meetings, and if there will be also with the Alliance
> fran1caise situee of it Wan Chai has (because I live in that district)?
>
> Thank you and good day,
> Marc
>
> This is a bit garbled, mainly because the original French was typed without
> accents and because the programme mistranslates French `assister' as `to
> assist' when it should really be `to be present'. Still, I think the
> general sense is clear enough. Putting accents in is difficult because you
> can't do it directly with most e-mail programs and have to paste in
> characters from a Word document using the menu of special symbols there..
>
> Best wishes,
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: sweety
> To:
[address removed]
> Sent: Monday, March 09,[masked]:47 PM
> Subject: RE: [french-835] meet up mercredi 11 mars 19h30
> I don't understand.
>
> --- On Mon, 3/9/09, Marc Trimbee <
[address removed]> wrote:
>
> From: Marc Trimbee <
[address removed]>
> Subject: RE: [french-835] meet up mercredi 11 mars 19h30
> To:
[address removed]
> Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 12:51 AM
>
> Bonjour Guy Azn,
>
> Merci beaucoup pour l'invitation a venir a l'Alliance Francaise situee a
> Kowloon pour une rencontre francophone ce mercredi 11 mars qui vient.
> Malheureusement, je ne pourrai y assister cette fois mais ca m'interesse
> beaucoup de rencontrer d'autres francophones vivant a Hong Kong. Est-ce que
> vous pourriez me faire savoir, s.v.p., quand il y aura d'autres rencontres
> francophones, et s'il y en aura egalement a l'Alliance Francaise situee a
> Wan Chai (car j'habite dans ce quartier-la)?
>
> Merci et bonne journee,
> Marc
>
>
>
>
>> Subject: [french-835] meet up mercredi 11 mars 19h30
>> From:
[address removed]
>> To: [address removed]
>> Date: Sun, 8 Mar[masked]:45:24 -0400
>>
>> de l'Alliance Francaise HK
>>
>> rencontres francophones
>> Mercredi 11 mars ? 19h30
>>
>> Juste pour le plaisir de discussion !
>>
>> Vous ?tes Fran?ais ou francophone, vous souhaitez rencontrer des
>> Hongkongais...
>> Vous ?tes Hongkongais, vous parlez fran?ais, vous souhaitez rencontrer
>> des Fran?ais ou des francophones ...
>> Rejoignez-nous pour discuter des sujets qui vous plaisent et pratiquez
>> votre fran?ais par la m?me occasion.
>>
>>
http://www.alliancefrancaise.com.hk/fr/mediatheque/rencontres.html
>>
>> T?l :[masked]
>> Adresse : 1/F, 52 Jordan Road, KOWLOON, Station de m?tro Jordan
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Alors qui veut y assister? Je serai l?. Faites-moi signe!
>>
>> GuyAzn
>>
>>
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