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Knee cap problems?

Kim B.
user 2681900
Vancouver, BC
Post #: 7
I was wondering if anyone has had issues with their frenchies knee caps moving around too much causing damage? We brought Bettie to our Vet yesterday because she had been limping on and off for a while. After examining her our Vet said her knee cap pops out very easily. The constent movement may have overtime caused irritation and inflammation leading to arthritis which is what is making it sore now. He said this can happen when the joint soket is too shallow. He also said they can do surgery to deepen the socket therefore making the knee cap more secure in the socket. In the mean time we've started her on arthritis medications. Has anyone had any experience with this? I'm feeling really awful because she is only 2 1/2 years old. Any thoughts?
Thanks
Tara
user 6659880
Vancouver, BC
Post #: 3
From a human point of view and from someone about to undergo knee surgery, I wouldn't do knee surgery unless it was absolutely necessary. Having knee surgery will increase her arthritis, so you might be better off with how she is now.

I don't know if there's doggy exercises that can build up the muscles in her leg, but that would be the best way to reduce the joint movement without doing anything invasive. I'd have her knee bandaged to reduce the joint movement and then go from there. If her knee continues to display other problems because of the loose joint then do surgery. While Bettie is going through this keep her on soft surfaces, reduce her jumping and try to prevent her from any sharp turns (that's when the knee is most likely to pop out).
Tracy
Tracy_
Group Organizer
Coquitlam, BC
Post #: 91
I was wondering if anyone has had issues with their frenchies knee caps moving around too much causing damage? We brought Bettie to our Vet yesterday because she had been limping on and off for a while. After examining her our Vet said her knee cap pops out very easily. The constent movement may have overtime caused irritation and inflammation leading to arthritis which is what is making it sore now. He said this can happen when the joint soket is too shallow. He also said they can do surgery to deepen the socket therefore making the knee cap more secure in the socket. In the mean time we've started her on arthritis medications. Has anyone had any experience with this? I'm feeling really awful because she is only 2 1/2 years old. Any thoughts?
Thanks

The condition is called Luxating Patella and it is one of the joint issues the breed is know for. Did your vet do any further tests. Did you have ex-rays done? IMO if xrays show that she has luxation grade 3 or higher I would consider the surgery. Your dog is very young and would benifit from surgery if the condition warrants it. I know someone that had the surgery done on a 18 months old dog with grade 4 luxating Patella and it made a huge difference in his quality of life. - but I would not even consider surgery until the X-rays are done and the dog is evaluated by a specialist. I would even goes as far as to ask for a consultation with Dr Schiller (orthopedic specialist) at Canada West before considering a major expensive surgery. When Sam had a limp last year her interpretation of Sam's x-rays turned out to be very different from our vets. I was very glad we went to her for a consultation.

Oh and I would ask your vet about doing a series of Cartrophen injections. The side effects are negligible and the injections may help with the inflammation and work to minimize cartilage damage.
Sheila T.
user 2531809
Ladysmith, BC
Post #: 32
Hi Kim

Did you talk to your vet about Betty's knee. Tracy is right, it is luxating patella and I know all about it. Jimmy ( the Boston Terrier) had two luxating patellas. He had it from the time he was a puppy and had both knees done (not by a specialist). That was before Dr. Brondwin rescued him and I took him. The operation did not take and Jim had one kneecap on the side of his leg and the other was constantly moving. His back legs were very weak and underdeveloped. Dr. Kosma at Canada West operated on him and now (a year later) he has put on a lot of muscle in his back legs. He is no longer in pain and he can run and jump. French Bulldogs put a lot of weight on those back legs and fixing the patella might lessen the possiblity of orthopedic problems in the future. Jimmy was under a year old at the the time of the first operation and two years old at the time of the second. We are very happy with Jimmy's outcome.

Sheila
Kim B.
user 2681900
Vancouver, BC
Post #: 8
Thank you for the reply's. You are very helpful!
We finally got Bettie in for an xray last week and turns out the socket is not too shallow but the one side of the joint is lower than the other allowing the patella to pop out of the joint very easily from the lower side. No arthritis though! We'll try to make an appt with a specialist soon, until then we've been told to keep up with the joint powder (although she hates it!). Would anyone suggest Metacam?
Thanks again,
Kim
Tracy
Tracy_
Group Organizer
Coquitlam, BC
Post #: 100
I would only suggest Metacam if she is in a lot of discomfort. We have used metacam with both Blezie and Sam. For Belzie it was with major pain issues, With Sam it was following his neuter and a few months later for a shoulder injury. He turns into to superdog with the stuff - which is not something I want since recovery usually means keeping him quiet and rested. There are also side effects associated with NSAIDS that make me hesitant to use them unless absolutely needed. Meticam is very easy to use, it has a sweet taste and belzie and sam both will take it right from the syringe. It must be given with food (not all vets will tell you that) . . .

We use a joint support called Canine Corta RX It is a liquid and you can pour it over food. Sam and Belzie seem to actually like it.

It is wonderful that there is no sign of arthritis that means there is no wearing in the joint and suggests Bettie is probably not in too much discomfort. Best of Luck with the Specialistlaughing
Margaret
user 2817979
Vancouver, BC
Post #: 5
My girlfriend?s 12 years old Pug was limping due to aging and her vet recommended a surgery to fix the problem. She didn?t want to stress the ?old? Pug with the surgery. One of her friends recommended her to try DOGZYMES Phyto-Flex CCM Plus from Natures Farmacy. She called the 1-800 numbers on their website and talked to a lady. She fed her Pug with double the recommended dosage and her Pug was able to walk comfortably after 6 ~ 7 weeks. She said her Pug will never fully recover but at least not in pain. I talked to couple other people and both high recommended two of their products. I started feeding my dogs with their DOGZYMES Digestive Enhancer, DOGZYMES Ultimate and DOGZYMES Phyto-Flex CCM Plus (just half the recommended dosage for prevention). Here is the link to their website. http://www.naturesfar...­
Kim B.
user 2681900
Vancouver, BC
Post #: 9
Hi everyone,
I just wanted to say thanks so much for everyone's input, it was all very helpful. We ended up taking her to Canada West Vets and saw Dr. Kuzma (very nice) and he said she had grade 3 luxating patella's in both knees. So, she just had surgery last week and is doing really well. Walking much better already although we have quite a long recovery road ahead of us (he said about two months). She also had her nostrils widened and he checked her pallet while she was under. She's now breathing much better as well and he said we won't have to be as cautious with the her in the hot weather. Anyway, thanks everyone and hopefully we'll see you all at the September meet up as long as her legs have healed.
Take care and hope everyone is having a great summer!
Tracy
Tracy_
Group Organizer
Coquitlam, BC
Post #: 103
I am sorry that Betty ended up needing surgery, but once she is fully recovered she will have a much better quality of life. Hopefully Betty will have an uneventful recovery. When Belzie had her eye operation she was on it seemed hiatus forever, but in retrospect it wasn't that long. She was in an E- collar for a long time but we only had to reduce her activity for about 8 weeks. I think it was a great idea to have Betty's nares widened and her pallet checked. If Belzie every goes under again I am planning to have her nares widened- she snores horribly and has not been as active since it has gotten so hot out. Several Vets have marveled at her ability to breath at all - she breath very well for a dog with no nostrils biggrin

Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
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