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Re: [furries-290] Death and Loss

From: Robert J.
Sent on: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:52 AM
Dalvin, with all due respect, please quit whining. 

If any of us had wanted to use the message board we would have, please
set up email filtering and folders, rather then complaining about list
traffic. I know yahoo has support for this functionality.

Robert Johnson
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On Wed,[masked] at 03:32 -0400, Dalavin teh Skepherd wrote:
> Ugh, your post was at the bottom of all that, ew
> I'd rather be anal about this than at someone changing their name on Facebook x3
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> Dalavin
> 
> AKA The Skepherd
> 
> AKA Tanner <3
> 
> http://skunkiebut...­
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> ===FURCODE 2.0===
> 
> 2.0FC*[Skepherd]6adi­rs V M D+++ H+ I P R+++ T+++ L-- Ym#/+- W#/tc/ms/rt O- Cwm++ Gf+ E F+++ B++ N+++ J--- A+ Sm#/+-
> 
> ==FURCODE END====
> 
> --- On Wed, 10/19/11, Dart Wuffy <[address removed]> wrote:
> 
> From: Dart Wuffy <[address removed]>
> Subject: Re: [furries-290] Death and Loss
> To: [address removed]
> Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 12:30 AM
> 
> 
>   
>   
>     On 10/19/2011 2:05 AM, Dalavin teh Skepherd wrote:
>     
>       
>           
>             
>               
>                 Here, I made a
>                   topic for you guys so you don't have to do it
>                   yourselves
> 
> http://www.meetup...­
> 
>                   Please post there instead of the mailing list ^_^
> 
>                   
> 
>                   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
>                   Dalavin
> 
>                   AKA The Skepherd
> 
>                   AKA Tanner <3
> 
>                   http://skunkiebut...­
> 
>                   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
>                   ===FURCODE 2.0===
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>                   Ym#/+- W#/tc/ms/rt O- Cwm++ Gf+ E F+++ B++ N+++ J---
>                   A+ Sm#/+-
> 
>                   ==FURCODE END====
> 
>                   
> 
>                   --- On Tue, 10/18/11, Blaidd Gwyn <[address removed]>
>                   wrote:
> 
>                   
> 
>                     From: Blaidd Gwyn <[address removed]>
> 
>                     Subject: Re: [furries-290] Death and Loss
> 
>                     To: [address removed]
> 
>                     Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 10:56 PM
> 
>                     
> 
>                     
>                       
>                           I
>                             can't speak for anyone else, but my
>                             depression has been with me my entire life.
>                             I had a horrible childhood: I was physically
>                             abused by my father and two stepsisters, I
>                             was sexually molested at the age of 6 by a
>                             stepsister and again at the age of 10 forced
>                             to perform oral sex on her against my will,
>                             I never knew month to month which family
>                             member I was going to be living with the
>                             next month, I never had a mother (she died
>                             when I was 7 months old), I was bisexual my
>                             entire life but I refused to accept it until
>                             I was 32 because liking boys was "bad" so I
>                             felt I was a bad person, I felt more
>                             connected to animals than people but didn't
>                             know what to do about it, and I accidentally
>                             burned down my father's house... All before
>                             I turned 11, which was when I tried to kill
>                             myself the first time. It has absolutely
>                             nothing to do with me being part of the
>                             furry fandom. And even when my life settled
>                             down and I permanently moved in with my
>                             grandmother before I turned 12, I felt that
>                             everyone else had stopped liking me, had
>                             given up on me, had gotten rid of me, was
>                             punishing me, etc. I have only spoken to my
>                             father once since the accident, that was to
>                             let him know I graduated from high school.
>                             His response was essentially "Wow, I didn't
>                             realize you were that old" which told me
>                             that in in about 5 years he forgot me, his
>                             one and only child. And I have more issues I
>                             don't particularly care to go into that have
>                             added to the problem.
> 
>                             
> 
>                             Sent from my Verizon
>                                     Wireless 4GLTE Phone
>                           
> 
>                           
> 
>                           -----Original message-----
> 
>                           
>                             From:
>                               Patricia <[address removed]>
> 
>                                 To: [address removed]
> 
>                                 Sent: Wed, Oct 19,[masked]:01:43
>                               GMT+00:00
> 
>                                 Subject: Re: [furries-290] Death
>                               and Loss
> 
>                               
> 
>                             
>                             
>                               
>                                 
>                                     
>                                       
>                                         
>                                           
>                                             You know I rarely ever
>                                               reply to the email
>                                               messages. I'm more of read
>                                               and dismiss kinda gal.
>                                               Also concerning furry
>                                               fandom I've only been
>                                               involved in it for little
>                                               over a year so I'm still
>                                               hanging on the fringes of
>                                               the fandom, myself.
>                                               However after reading all
>                                               the past messages, I
>                                               really am surprised at the
>                                               amount of depression and
>                                               suicide found in furry
>                                               fandom. Of course I could
>                                               be wrong and this whole
>                                               situation could be
>                                               exceptional, but talking
>                                               about suicide itself is
>                                               serious. Its not something
>                                               u can dismiss so easily or
>                                               basically talk causually
>                                               about in crossing. Suicide
>                                               is serious. Very serious.
>                                               And in my opinion have so
>                                               many people openly admit
>                                               that they've concidered or
>                                               atempted suicide is beyond
>                                               alarming to me. I'm sorry
>                                               if this sounds consumptous
>                                               to some. Trust me its not.
>                                               I'm just very surprised of
>                                               the level of depressed and
>                                               despondent furries out
>                                               there. Like I said I'm
>                                               still very new to the
>                                               fandom, so this is
>                                               surprising to me. I myself
>                                               am not depressed nor have
>                                               ever considered suicide.
>                                               However then again I'm a
>                                               horse person and I've
>                                               always been competitvly
>                                               involved with horses, so
>                                               anytime I was remotely sad
>                                               id escape to my barn and
>                                               ride horses until I felt
>                                               better. Horses make me
>                                               happy, so I guess they
>                                               save me from depression.
>                                               That's my experience at
>                                               least.
>                                             -Patricia, the goat. (I
>                                               know, ironic right?)
> 
>                                               
> 
>                                             
>                                             Sent from Yahoo! Mail on
>                                               Android
>                                           
>                                         
>                                       
>                                     
>                                     
>                                        
> 
>                                          
>                                               From:
>                                              paradox
>                                             <[address removed]>;
>                                             
> 
>                                              To:
>                                             
>                                             <[address removed]>;
>                                             
> 
>                                              Subject:
>                                              Re: [furries-290] Death
>                                             and Loss 
> 
>                                              Sent:
>                                              Wed, Oct 19, 2011
>                                             2:28:49 AM 
> 
>                                            
> 
>                                           
>                                             
>                                               
>                                                 
>                                                   
>                                                       I've learned
>                                                         that the people
>                                                         that shun you
>                                                         away or tell you
>                                                         otherwise are
>                                                         the kindve
>                                                         people you don't
>                                                         need in you're
>                                                         life. They only
>                                                         hold you back.
>                                                         We are here to
>                                                         help each other
>                                                         and I'm not
>                                                         going to tell
>                                                         you to leave or
>                                                         change and im
>                                                         sure everyone
>                                                         else here can
>                                                         back that. You
>                                                         are unique in
>                                                         your own way so
>                                                         be proud of it.
>                                                         there are a few
>                                                         kind of people I
>                                                         won't be around
>                                                         and for a good
>                                                         reason, I'm not
>                                                         going to judge
>                                                         anybody as a
>                                                         general rule. I
>                                                         will get to know
>                                                         them first.
>                                                         Otherwise I'm
>                                                         open for
>                                                         friends. Be
>                                                         happy your a
>                                                         furry.
>                                                       
> 
>                                                       
>                                                       Paradox
> 
>                                                         
> 
>                                                         Sent from my
>                                                         iPhone
>                                                       
> 
>                                                         On Oct 18, 2011,
>                                                         at 7:13 PM,
>                                                         HYP3RCU83 <[address removed]> wrote:
> 
>                                                         
> 
>                                                       
>                                                       
>                                                         
>                                                           I have had quite a bad life so far and
>                                                           wish I could
>                                                           forget it, yet
>                                                           to this day
>                                                           people keep
>                                                           leaving or
>                                                           dying around
>                                                           me, I lost the
>                                                           last person I
>                                                           had to talk to
>                                                           a little over
>                                                           a month ago
>                                                           and I rarely
>                                                           speak these
>                                                           days so, I am
>                                                           a bit edgy on
>                                                           wether or not
>                                                           to talk to
>                                                           anyone at all
>                                                           at this point
>                                                           since everyone
>                                                           I turn to
>                                                           keeps shunning
>                                                           me away...
> 
>                                                           
> 
>                                                           On Tuesday,
>                                                           October 18,
>                                                           2011, kevin
>                                                           <[address removed]>
>                                                           wrote:
> 
>                                                           > I've gone
>                                                           through quite
>                                                           a few deaths
>                                                           and they can
>                                                           be almost
>                                                           impossible to
>                                                           cope with,
>                                                           especially if
>                                                           they're close
>                                                           to you. It
>                                                           seems like
>                                                           just one death
>                                                           can pull your
>                                                           whole life
>                                                           down. If
>                                                           anyone needs
>                                                           to chat or
>                                                           wants to talk
>                                                           about the
>                                                           passing of
>                                                           someone, I'd
>                                                           be glad to
>                                                           give a hand.
>                                                           It's pretty
>                                                           nice seeing
>                                                           the vast
>                                                           amount of furs
>                                                           in here
>                                                           willing to
>                                                           give a hand...
>                                                           or paw... or
>                                                           hugs... to
>                                                           people in a
>                                                           time of need.
> 
>                                                           >
> 
>                                                           > You can
>                                                           either catch
>                                                           me in furnet
>                                                           on kevin or
>                                                           kevin|irc. You
>                                                           can also email
>                                                           me if you want
>                                                           to talk on
>                                                           msn/skype/gtalk/icq/­aim/yim/etc.
> 
>                                                           >
> 
>                                                           > On Tue,
>                                                           Oct 18, 2011
>                                                           at 5:57 PM,
>                                                           paradox <[address removed]> wrote:
> 
>                                                           >
> 
>                                                           > Don't let
>                                                           that ominous
>                                                           abyss drag you
>                                                           to the depths
>                                                           of despair.
>                                                           I've had my
>                                                           fair share of
>                                                           death and loss
>                                                           and I know I
>                                                           have more to
>                                                           face in the
>                                                           future. I've
>                                                           Been fighting
>                                                           deperession
>                                                           and suicidal
>                                                           tendencies
>                                                           since my early
>                                                           childhood and
>                                                           I'm still
>                                                           fighting. I
>                                                           choose to keep
>                                                           going because
>                                                           I know things
>                                                           are getting
>                                                           better. They
>                                                           will for all
>                                                           of you. Don't
>                                                           give up. we
>                                                           are here for
>                                                           each other for
>                                                           better of for
>                                                           worse. I will
>                                                           lend a hand,
>                                                           an ear, heart
>                                                           or brain to
>                                                           anyone that
>                                                           feels alone
>                                                           and needs a
>                                                           friend. I am
>                                                           always open
>                                                           for a good
>                                                           friend.
>                                                           Regardless of
>                                                           my current
>                                                           condition(s).
>                                                           s*** happens
>                                                           and I won't
>                                                           let it get the
>                                                           best of me and
>                                                           I won't let it
>                                                           interfere with
>                                                           anything or
>                                                           anyone else.
>                                                           Stay furry...
>                                                           Get a hug or
>                                                           more, go live
>                                                           for the
>                                                           moment. ;-)
> 
>                                                           >
> 
>                                                           > For the
>                                                           cubs find
>                                                           something to
>                                                           play with or
>                                                           warm up to
>                                                           something
>                                                           cozy. For the
>                                                           fun and
>                                                           enjoyment of
>                                                           it
>                                                           anyways..hugs...
> 
>                                                           >
> 
>                                                           > P.S. For
>                                                           those who read
>                                                           my message on
>                                                           the board I
>                                                           appreciate you
>                                                           taking the
>                                                           time to do so.
>                                                           seeing all of
>                                                           the loving
>                                                           people in this
>                                                           string of
>                                                           messages helps
>                                                           quite a bit.
>                                                           Thanks.
> 
>                                                           >
> 
>                                                           > Paradox
> 
>                                                           >
> 
>                                                           > Sent from
>                                                           my iPhone
> 
>                                                           >
> 
>                                                           > On Oct
>                                                           18, 2011, at
>                                                           2:13 AM,
>                                                           Robert Johnson
>                                                           <[address removed]>
>                                                           wrote:
> 
>                                                           >
> 
>                                                           >> My
>                                                           thoughts have
>                                                           been lingering
>                                                           quite a bit
>                                                           about recent
>                                                           losses in the
> 
>                                                           >>
>                                                           fandom, some
>                                                           are clearly
>                                                           accidental,
>                                                           some are
>                                                           otherwise
>                                                           mysterious,
> 
>                                                           >>
>                                                           however its
>                                                           all tragic,
>                                                           and in my time
>                                                           I have known
>                                                           of (and known)
> 
>                                                           >>
>                                                           several folks
>                                                           to have
>                                                           committed
>                                                           suicide.
>                                                           Having waded
>                                                           down that dark
> 
>                                                           >>
>                                                           morass myself,
>                                                           many times, I
>                                                           wanted to put
>                                                           _something_
>                                                           out there.
> 
>                                                           >>
> 
>                                                           >> Furry
>                                                           is a family,
>                                                           yes, its a
>                                                           (sometimes
>                                                           very)
>                                                           dysfunctional
>                                                           one, but I
> 
>                                                           >> have
>                                                           never seen a
>                                                           case where
>                                                           furs were not
>                                                           very nearly
>                                                           always there
>                                                           for
> 
>                                                           >> one
>                                                           another,
>                                                           sometimes with
>                                                           just a
>                                                           friendly
>                                                           shoulder,
>                                                           often with
>                                                           money,
> 
>                                                           >> time
>                                                           and other
>                                                           resources.
> 
>                                                           >>
> 
>                                                           >> So, I
>                                                           want to make
>                                                           myself clear,
>                                                           if anyone feel
>                                                           so alone that
>                                                           they need
> 
>                                                           >> to
>                                                           end it, that
>                                                           there is no
>                                                           hope of
>                                                           improvement,
>                                                           please, reach
>                                                           out,
> 
>                                                           >> these
>                                                           are hard
>                                                           times, and
>                                                           contrary to
>                                                           what we hear,
>                                                           are not
>                                                           getting
> 
>                                                           >>
>                                                           better.
>                                                           Sometimes we
>                                                           all need
>                                                           someone to
>                                                           talk to, and I
>                                                           want every
> 
>                                                           >>
>                                                           person to know
>                                                           that someone
>                                                           will always be
>                                                           there for you
>                                                           to help you
> 
>                                                           >> deal
>                                                           with it, and
>                                                           while we may
>                                                           not solve your
>                                                           problem for
>                                                           you, we can at
> 
>                                                           >> least
>                                                           give you an
>                                                           ear to chew on
>                                                           for a bit. I
>                                                           volunteer
>                                                           myself for
>                                                           one.
> 
>                                                           >>
> 
>                                                           >> I
>                                                           think its
>                                                           times like
>                                                           these that
>                                                           make us
>                                                           stronger as a
>                                                           community, and
> 
>                                                           >> while
>                                                           I would just
>                                                           as soon things
>                                                           be better for
>                                                           everyone, it
>                                                           helps us
> 
>                                                           >> all
>                                                           in the end if
>                                                           we pull closer
>                                                           together.
> 
>                                                           >>
> 
>                                                           >> In
>                                                           the end, Don't
>                                                           be afraid to
>                                                           ask for help,
>                                                           we all need it
>                                                           sometimes.
> 
>                                                           >>
> 
>                                                           >>
>                                                           Robert Johnson
> 
>                                                           >> --
> 
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> 
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>                                                           only willing
>                                                           to think."
> 
>                                                           >>
> 
>                                                           >> -
>                                                           Thomas J.
>                                                           Watson Sr.
> 
>                                                           >> --
> 
>                                                           >>
> 
>                                                           >>
> 
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